Nov 6, 2016, 5:33 am
World of Hyatt [Pre-Launch]
Nov 1, 2016, 6:31 pm
#736
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
The good thing is now that this is a 'new' loyalty program, I can probably get a 'once in a lifetime' status match if they're offering double night credits. Status match has been Hyatt's traditional method to gain butts in bed - I've never seen them do double night credits.
Nov 1, 2016, 6:37 pm
#737
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
Nov 1, 2016, 6:43 pm
#738
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,990
The writer of that article seems to be a corporate shill.
If this writer really believes this kind of Hyatt program change is a response to competition from Airbnb, she really needs to put down the corporate Kool-Aid.
I must say that ever since Hyatt did its IPO and even some customers picked up its shares in the secondary market, apologists for the company's moves have become more widespread online and offline.
If this writer really believes this kind of Hyatt program change is a response to competition from Airbnb, she really needs to put down the corporate Kool-Aid.
I must say that ever since Hyatt did its IPO and even some customers picked up its shares in the secondary market, apologists for the company's moves have become more widespread online and offline.
Nov 1, 2016, 7:11 pm
#739
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: berkeley, Ca, USA
Programs: Hyatt globalist, Alaska mvp gold, Marriott platinum, ihg diamond
Posts: 438
Greetings! I just read about changes to Hyatt's program yesterday in this USA Today article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...ates/92902648/
Allow me to be old school politically incorrect for a response. The names are gay (and not in a good way). I can guarantee that there will be backlash from some individuals for these names - I am one of many who find 'globalist' to be an undesirable word. And I doubt that they've been vetted for worldwide consumption - what seems innocuous in US culture almost invariably offends at least one other culture in this world. I give Hyatt 24 months max before they're back to precious gems/metals.
Allow me to be old school politically incorrect for a response. The names are gay (and not in a good way). I can guarantee that there will be backlash from some individuals for these names - I am one of many who find 'globalist' to be an undesirable word. And I doubt that they've been vetted for worldwide consumption - what seems innocuous in US culture almost invariably offends at least one other culture in this world. I give Hyatt 24 months max before they're back to precious gems/metals.
Nov 1, 2016, 7:31 pm
#740
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
Nov 1, 2016, 7:38 pm
#741
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,968
Just noticed that the upgrade benefits are at each property's discretion. Are you joking me? This means that higher floors will suddenly become "suites" or all rooms suddenly are booked only when a diamond checks in. No thnaks.
Nov 1, 2016, 7:55 pm
#742
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Usually in SAN or Central Europe.
Programs: AA:EXP/1MM. Accor/Radisson:Silver; HH:Gold; ICH:Plt Amb.
Posts: 22,307
So did Hyatt hire a bunch of social justice warriors from BuzzFeed to revamp their loyalty program? Calling top tier status "Globalist" and "rewarding empathy"?? Seriously?? Why not also reward members for "virtue-signaling".
Nov 1, 2016, 8:14 pm
#743
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Ok, I want to make sure I am understanding this post correctly.
You state:
1) you have so far have 18 stay and 25 night credits this year
2) FOUR of those stays and FOUR of the nights are Mlife mattress runs
3) TWO of the stays and FIVE of the nights are from credit card spend
4) you plan on getting THREE MORE stays and FIVE MORE nights credit from the credit card by the end of the year, giving you 20/30.
5) you plan on MRing the last 5 stays to make 25, giving you 25/35
You state:
1) you have so far have 18 stay and 25 night credits this year
2) FOUR of those stays and FOUR of the nights are Mlife mattress runs
3) TWO of the stays and FIVE of the nights are from credit card spend
4) you plan on getting THREE MORE stays and FIVE MORE nights credit from the credit card by the end of the year, giving you 20/30.
5) you plan on MRing the last 5 stays to make 25, giving you 25/35
Can't say I would blame them.
Nov 1, 2016, 8:27 pm
#744
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 35
Here's an interesting question that I don't think I've yet seen addressed on any of the blogs. How about purchased points? Hyatt limits each member to 55k max but would those be considered base points?
Nov 1, 2016, 8:31 pm
#745
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
The chain has far too small a footprint to justify such high minimums.
I will now burn my 4 unused DSUs from this year (plus 4 for next year) and will only give Hyatt properties P+C or award stays until I've exhausted my Hyatt points. As per the T&Cs.
Nov 1, 2016, 8:33 pm
#746
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
Base points are only earned for hotel expenses at 5:1. Room, food, services only.
Nov 1, 2016, 8:33 pm
#747
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: AA & DL / SPG & HGP
Posts: 1,723
I mean, when CC was created, the Diamonds didn't mostly say "CC sucks, I'm just as good/loyal". That's because the Diamond set of rewards wasn't greatly diminished (cut) to create CC.
What is upsetting to most, is that instead of creating a new set of rewards for just that top of the top target, HGP is using a mostly lesser Diamond set of rewards, and is saying to a vast number (majority?) of Diamonds, basically, "sorry, you're not getting a poor reward set... step up to new Diamond, accept your poor reward set, or leave."
Nov 1, 2016, 8:37 pm
#748
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Nov 1, 2016, 8:41 pm
#749
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 5,814
What pisses me off more is that they won't announce the lifetime program changes until March 1st. Which (atleast to me) indicates SOMETHING is going to change but they aren't even sure what.
Thats when the last shoe dropped (for me) and I cancelled all (20) of my future Hyatt bookings yesterday. I love my Hyatt Concierge rep so I will give myself a week to cool down before I let her know.
Last edited by edcho; Nov 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Nov 1, 2016, 8:45 pm
#750
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
While we all dislike the 55 night requirement, I think we all objectively have to agree that there's nothing so evil or bad about Hyatt creating a high bar for a top tier of a loyalty program in an effort to reward the most loyal customers based on spend/nights.
I mean, when CC was created, the Diamonds didn't mostly say "CC sucks, I'm just as good/loyal". That's because the Diamond set of rewards wasn't greatly diminished (cut) to create CC.
What is upsetting to most, is that instead of creating a new set of rewards for just that top of the top target, HGP is using a mostly lesser Diamond set of rewards, and is saying to a vast number (majority?) of Diamonds, basically, "sorry, you're not getting a poor reward set... step up to new Diamond, accept your poor reward set, or leave."
I mean, when CC was created, the Diamonds didn't mostly say "CC sucks, I'm just as good/loyal". That's because the Diamond set of rewards wasn't greatly diminished (cut) to create CC.
What is upsetting to most, is that instead of creating a new set of rewards for just that top of the top target, HGP is using a mostly lesser Diamond set of rewards, and is saying to a vast number (majority?) of Diamonds, basically, "sorry, you're not getting a poor reward set... step up to new Diamond, accept your poor reward set, or leave."
That the benefits in each tier (save Glob) are not worthy of chasing is yet another poorly thought out aspect of this rollout. And Glob itself lends incredible leeway to the individual hotels to dole out upgrades at their whim.