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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by Mary2e
I got a "smokin" deal for my parents in Waikiki for a month stay.

WAAAAY below the going least expensive rate. If you call a hotel directly when you want a long term stay they will definitely give you a good deal.

It has nothing to do with status.
Exactly! This is just a negotiated deal. Fooling yourself if you think this is due to some magical status
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by FD1971
Pretty regular treatment for a LT Diamond member at a property with 75 suites..., one should not forget that the entry level suite at the Grand Cypress is nothing to write home about, although the LC2 is pretty nice, I prefer the black one to the white one, though.

90 days in a row should result in a rate significantly below the base rate, at the Grand Cypress the weeks leading to X-Mas and the ones after New Year are pretty much off-season, so I would expect to pay around $ 150 per night, probably less for such a long stay.
Coconut Point, not Cypress.

Mary2e.. You said you had a relationship with upper management at the Waikiki hotel which offers you special treatment. So which is it, your special relationship, or just calling up as any Joe to get a suite less than the going base room rate? You made it point to display your prowess with upper management at Waikiki, but now you're claiming that anybody can do this.

And to all members, posting garbage like the public can do this is misleading. The public usually calls central reservations.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
Coconut Point, not Cypress.

Mary2e.. You said you had a relationship with upper management at the hotel which offers special treatment. So which is it, your special relationship, or just calling up as any Joe to get a suite less than the going base room rate? You made it point to display your prowess with upper management at Waikiki, but now you're claiming that anybody can do this.

And to all members, posting garbage like the public can do this is misleading. The public usually calls central reservations.
I have been going there for many years. However, they still have to answer to their senior management, and it's not for me, it's for my parents.

But you DO call the hotel directly if you want to negotiate a special deal. Central reservations can't do anything.

I'm sorry you think it's nonsense, but it is pretty SOP for not only Hyatt hotels, but most chains. I've also gotten my parents "smokin" rates for a month down the street at the Pacific Monarch - a 1 bedroom ocean view suite for less than a regular studio is going for.

Perhaps you should try it yourself before calling it nonsense. Hotels appreciate the guaranteed revenue from a long stay and will make concessions to guarantee it.

Didn't you just post that you got a great rate for 24 days at the Grand Cypress next year? Ditto for Kauai? You're not getting a break because of your status, but because of you length of stay and because you spoke to hotel staff directly why you were there.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:36 am
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
Coconut Point, not Cypress.

Mary2e.. You said you had a relationship with upper management at the Waikiki hotel which offers you special treatment. So which is it, your special relationship, or just calling up as any Joe to get a suite less than the going base room rate? You made it point to display your prowess with upper management at Waikiki, but now you're claiming that anybody can do this.

And to all members, posting garbage like the public can do this is misleading. The public usually calls central reservations.
Sorry AM but the only "garbage" being posted here is by you
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
Sorry AM but the only "garbage" being posted here is by you
It's simply garbage to say, anybody can book a suite for less than the base room rate. Yes, I agree there are pockets of exceptions. But it's elevated bs to say everybody is going to receive such a deal by simply calling the hotel.

Originally Posted by Mary2e
I have been going there for many years. However, they still have to answer to their senior management, and it's not for me, it's for my parents.

But you DO call the hotel directly if you want to negotiate a special deal. Central reservations can't do anything.

I'm sorry you think it's nonsense, but it is pretty SOP for not only Hyatt hotels, but most chains. I've also gotten my parents "smokin" rates for a month down the street at the Pacific Monarch - a 1 bedroom ocean view suite for less than a regular studio is going for.

Perhaps you should try it yourself before calling it nonsense. Hotels appreciate the guaranteed revenue from a long stay and will make concessions to guarantee it.

Didn't you just post that you got a great rate for 24 days at the Grand Cypress next year? Ditto for Kauai? You're not getting a break because of your status, but because of you length of stay and because you spoke to hotel staff directly why you were there.
I didn't receive any special treatment booking these deals. Off the website and central reservations. Central reservations did call the hotel and line up the difficult reservations.

Edit: I just wanted to add that I know senior management at a few Fairmonts. My friends and family would not receive the deals they did without my relationship with the hotel manager and GMs at the properties.

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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
It's simply garbage to say, anybody can book a suite for less than the base room rate. Yes, I agree there are pockets of exceptions. But it's elevated bs to say everybody is going to receive such a deal by simply calling the hotel.
It is not BS at all. An absolutely nobody who has never stayed at a Hyatt or in fact any single hotel in their entire life can phone up, say they want to book a room for 3 months and what kind of deal can you cut, and can book a suite for less than the base room rate. ABSOLUTELY ANYBODY. not even an out of pocket exception. Long term lock ups are far more profitable than some "Diamond" DYKWIA who gets free breakfast every day.

If you want to continue to fool and delude yourself that somehow you are special then go ahead and be my guest. But quit calling reality garbage.
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
It is not BS at all. An absolutely nobody who has never stayed at a Hyatt or in fact any single hotel in their entire life can phone up, say they want to book a room for 3 months and what kind of deal can you cut, and can book a suite for less than the base room rate. ABSOLUTELY ANYBODY. not even an out of pocket exception. Long term lock ups are far more profitable than some "Diamond" DYKWIA who gets free breakfast every day.

If you want to continue to fool and delude yourself that somehow you are special then go ahead and be my guest. But quit calling reality garbage.
Take some time and look at your own post before your next comment.. You are saying that ANYBODY can call up and get a suite for the rate discussed. But you are missing an important element to the whole discussion, and you mention that the ordinary joe is going to get better treatment than a Lifetime/Diamond.
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
Take some time and look at your own post before your next comment.. You are saying that ANYBODY can call up and get a suite for the rate discussed. But you are missing an important element to the whole discussion, and you mention that the ordinary joe is going to get better treatment than a Lifetime/Diamond.
where do I mention this? You continue to just make stuff up. You are very close to my ignore list, other than the fact I feel compelled to point out to other FTers how wrong you are on 99% of what you write here
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 3:49 pm
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Come on guys, a few of us would really like to see this thread not get locked....
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Originally Posted by hobo13
Come on guys, a few of us would really like to see this thread not get locked....
... or folks suspended from posting.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Ancien Maestro
You are saying that ANYBODY can call up and get a suite for the rate discussed. But you are missing an important element to the whole discussion, and you mention that the ordinary joe is going to get better treatment than a Lifetime/Diamond.
I would suspect that an ordinary joe who books for 3 months is very likely to get better treatment than a Lifetime/Diamond who books for 2 nights.

I know for a fact that a non-status-holder who books a convention providing several hundred room-nights on an otherwise dead weekend gets treated a hell of a lot better than a Diamond member who books a room. (Said better treatment might well result in him ceasing to be a non-status-holder.)
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 9:36 pm
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FWIW, the registration site is still available.
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 10:00 pm
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FWIW, the registration site is still available.
that just shows a ridiculous level of incompetence
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Old Jan 2, 2014 | 10:44 pm
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Originally Posted by ma91pmh
that just shows a ridiculous level of incompetence
That incompetence made you a Lifetime Diamond, so you should use nicer language in your critiques.
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Originally Posted by hailstorm
That incompetence made you a Lifetime Diamond, so you should use nicer language in your critiques.
hey i love what i got, but i actually think incompetence is a pretty polite description of the situation given it clearly "wasn't meant to be"
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