How did you see the upgrade offer? I too have the Amex Hilton and would love for an upgrade offer to match the new card bonus.

Given the new Surpass offer & interest in signups & upgrades, I've added a section to the wiki on how to maximize your bonuses over the long run. (Short version: earn signup bonus first, then upgrade later on. The reverse order is functionally impossible.)

Apologies if this has been answered, did a quick search but couldn't find it.

When does the 12x points for completing a stay post? I just completed my first stay and it gave me the 500 bonus points for booking directly, but I do not see the 12x for Surpass.

It's not 12x for a stay; it's 12x for Hilton-related spend. You'll get the points (base + bonus) at the end of each billing cycle, just as with other cards that have fixed bonus categories.

According to the wiki, I should apply and then upgrade to get 2x100k bonus, right? If the card is canceled right after bonus is obtained, will we get annual fee refund?

I just saw the same offer on my account, no brainer and yes you can downgrade later back to the no annual fee version. I think you'll have to pay one $75 annual fee for this offer once which I don't have a problem with. I would downgrade at some point before your 2nd annual fee hits.

If you already have the no annual fee version with a 100k offer to upgrade that is the best deal (at least for me). Not sure about if the AF would be refunded but my SA just canceled her SPG and amex prorated the annual fee back to her, $16. Winning!

I personally wouldn't cancel right a receiving a bonus but its whatever you feel comfortable with.

I don't actually want to cancel but if we downgrade it, will we get the AF prorated? And how long do we have to hold on to the Surpass before eligible for downgrade?

Upgrading usually saves you a hard credit pull vs. a fresh application. Downgrade anytime before yr. 2 annual fee is due. Be thankful that your 100,000 points is only costing $95. ;)

You mean $75, right?

What is the best strategy ? Apply for new card for 100k points and then upgrade the no fee card for another 100k? I'm afraid that by the time I get the first 100k from the new card, the offer to upgrade might go away. Plus, will Amex allow to have 2 surpass cards at the same time or I have to cancel the first card before upgrading the no fee one???

I could not find a answer to this,

so I currently have the no annual fee version of AMEX Hilton HHonors card, I received the sign-up bonus for this card. I had this card for less than a year, so I have never upgraded this card to surpass card.

Now, can I apply for the surpass card and received the 100K current offer? I never had the surpass card before.

If the surpass card and the no-fee card are considered two different products, then I should be able to receive the 100k sign-up bonus on the surpass card, but I just want to make sure.

Thanks!

I am only getting a 50k upgrade offer, I've had the Hilton Honors card for 15-18 months.

You'll have to cancel one Surpass card. The upgrade offer will probably revert back to the 50k bonus. All these points that are being given away lately is going to dilute the product even more.

Same situation here. My no-fee Amex Hilton is only a few months old. Last night I signed up for the 100k offer on the $75 Amex Surpass. I got approved and my Amex account page reflects the addition of the new card.

Once I get the physical card, I'll charge $3k and verify I get the 100k HH points. To be continued ... will report back.