May 26, 2014, 3:09 pm
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Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 155,000 points for spending $3,000 in 3 months; $95 annual fee. Offer Expires Apr. 17, 2024
Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 170,000 points for spending $3,000 in 3 months; $95 annual fee. Expired Jan 17 2024
Hilton HHonors American Express Surpass card. 130,000 points for spending $4,000 in 4 months; $95 annual fee. OFFER EXPIRED AUG 28.
Hilton HHonors American Express Ascend card. 75,000 points for spending $2,000 in 3 months+ 25,000 points after additional $1000 in 6 months; $95 annual fee.
Note: For existing Surpass card holders, AMEX verbally confirmed that on or after 20 January 2018, card holders can call in and request cards be converted to Aspire - while maintaining the same credit card number, balance limits, PIN, etc.
Card features:
Check your application status
Linking AmexAscend Surpass to your Hilton Honors account.Many (most?) have reported that a new Hilton Honors number gets assigned by Amex even when they put their existing Hilton Honors number in the application, and it can take several weeks to get this worked out. However, the key to making things go smoothly seems to be an exact match of your name and address between Amex and Hilton, including adding your middle initial to your Hilton Honors account if you use it on your Amex. When everything matches, an Amex rep should be able to update the account number, it should "go through" immediately, and the correct Hilton account number will be reflected on the Amex website in about 2 days.
Is the AmexAscend Surpass churnable?As of May 1, 2014, Amex will not give a signup bonus to card applicants who have held the card in the past ~7 years, even if the applicant has never earned a previous signup bonus for it. However, it is still possible to upgrade an existing Hilton Amex to the Ascend Surpass card to earn a bonus (and reportedly to do this more than once by later downgrading & then upgrading again). The best strategy is to earn a Ascend Surpass signup bonus first, and only afterward pursue the upgrade bonus(es).
For information on other Hilton-branded credit cards, see the wiki at Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
- Important limitation on this offer: "Welcome bonus offer not available to applicants who have or have had this product."
Note: For existing Surpass card holders, AMEX verbally confirmed that on or after 20 January 2018, card holders can call in and request cards be converted to Aspire - while maintaining the same credit card number, balance limits, PIN, etc.
Card features:
- Annual fee:
$95$150, no first-year waiver. - Earning: 12 HHonors points per dollar on Hilton spend; 6 points/$ at U.S. restaurants, supermarkets & gas stations; 4 points for online retail purchases (as of 2023); and 3 points/$ on everything else.
- Elite status: Hilton Gold status for as long as you have the card and Diamond status after $40,000 in annual spend.
- Booking bonus: 500 bonus points for every stay (including award stays) booked directly with Hilton & guaranteed with the card
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For information on other Hilton-branded credit cards, see the wiki at Ongoing offers for Hilton cards issued by Amex or Citi
The Hilton Honors Surpass Card from American Express (formerly called Ascend)
Dec 11, 2017, 12:35 pm
#482
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,657
I was surprised that I FINALLY got the product change notice email from AMEX this past weekend. Took them forever considering others had posted that they were notified soon after the new product was announced.
Dec 11, 2017, 12:49 pm
#484
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 265
Question: Just got a note from Amex: "HH Surpass Card will now be known as HH Ascend Card" (effective January 18, 2018) and the fee will increase to $95, etc.
Can I just cancel AMEX Surpass and re-apply for the 'new and different' Amex Ascend card - allowing me to get the bonus for the new card? If I allow them to convert the card, I won't be eligible to get the bonus again, correct? Can someone who knows please clarify this for me?
Thanks!
Can I just cancel AMEX Surpass and re-apply for the 'new and different' Amex Ascend card - allowing me to get the bonus for the new card? If I allow them to convert the card, I won't be eligible to get the bonus again, correct? Can someone who knows please clarify this for me?
Thanks!
Again I appreciate if anyone has any knowledge on this!
Dec 11, 2017, 3:20 pm
#485
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Austin, TX
Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 183
Not once the card changes to Ascend, right? That's one of the new benefits, 10 free visits per year. I think I read that we can use the PP Card we already have (glad I didn't shred it like some people have!).
Dec 11, 2017, 4:20 pm
#486
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,042
Guess I'll quote myself to see if we have any new readers who have info on cancelling Surpass and reapplying to get a new bonus. I assume cancellation should be done soon, so the background process doesn't start and show that I am already the owner of the new Ascend Card.
Again I appreciate if anyone has any knowledge on this!
Again I appreciate if anyone has any knowledge on this!
Dec 11, 2017, 4:45 pm
#487
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
But isn't it a different card? Different name, different annual fee, different benefits? I've gotten (as many of us have) bonuses on different Amex cards, even different Amex Hilton cards - so why would we not get a bonus on this "new" Ascend card, which actually is a replacement for the old Citi card? (let's not forget that)
Dec 12, 2017, 6:26 pm
#488
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,042
But isn't it a different card? Different name, different annual fee, different benefits? I've gotten (as many of us have) bonuses on different Amex cards, even different Amex Hilton cards - so why would we not get a bonus on this "new" Ascend card, which actually is a replacement for the old Citi card? (let's not forget that)
Dec 12, 2017, 9:00 pm
#489
Join Date: Nov 2015
Programs: DL, Marriott & IHG Platty; HH Diamonte
Posts: 861
Physical card needed for typical PP. With that being said, I one time didn't have my physical card and they called someplace/someone to verify.
Dec 28, 2017, 6:57 pm
#490
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 333
Many of us are banking on the opposite interpretation. They look, act and sound like different products. In my case, if I am wrong, I will only lose 2 months of AF. Easy gamble.
Dec 30, 2017, 7:56 pm
#491
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,269
I'm assuming this will work. Do you also think the old and new no-fee cards will be treated as different products?
Dec 30, 2017, 8:25 pm
#492
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: PHX
Programs: HHonors Lifetime Diamond, UA Million Miler Gold, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 1,142
I have the Citi and the Surpass. Kinda just waiting to see what they do. I have moved almost all spend to Chase.....F/CFU/CSR combo.
My question is around hard pulls. Is anything hitting from these cards being moved, changed transferred etc.
My question is around hard pulls. Is anything hitting from these cards being moved, changed transferred etc.
Dec 30, 2017, 9:44 pm
#493
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
There are no hard pulls if you do nothing and let them transfer and rename the cards.
Jan 6, 2018, 2:42 am
#495
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: TOA
Programs: HH Diamond, Marriott LTPP/Platinum Premier, Hyatt Lame-ist, UA !K
Posts: 20,061