Learn the Program!
#1
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: AA,NW,HH,DL,LC
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Hello all
Longtime reader of this forum, first time poster. Tonight, while checking in at a Hampton Inn location in Tennessee, I saw a spectacle so upsetting to me that I thought I would finally join the forum and post.
There was a gentleman (term used very loosely) at the desk in front of me badgering the front desk agent because the hotel was sold out and he had not made an advance reservation. His words were, "I am a DIAMOND VIP. What are you going to do for me?" The agent kind of shrugged and said something to the effect that there was nothing she would be able to do except try to help him make a reservation at the next closest Hilton family hotel, 120 miles away, or a different hotel chain someplace closer.
The man screamed, yelled, showed his ugly side and was quite demanding to know why there were no rooms "on reserve" for Diamond VIP HHonors members, and did the front desk agent know just how much money he spends a year in Hampton Inns... He finally stormed out of the hotel yelling that "the Diamond Desk will hear about this..."
After such an event, I was nearly embarrassed to check in with my own Diamond card. I had made an advance reservation.
The moral of the story, folks: learn the program if you're going to use it. For Diamond VIP status, reservations are guaranteed outside 48 hrs. of arrival with the exception of certain black-out periods for the individual hotel location (ie, Indy 500, Mardi Gras, etc.) That's the perk, right there. If the hotel is sold out and you're calling a few days before arrival, another guest will be 'walked' to allow a Diamond VIP member to stay.
It's ridiculous to think that any hotel would set rooms aside on any night (let alone a busy night) for Diamond VIP members who just happen to walk in off the street. Not only is that idea not part of the program, it doesn't make good sense for the hotel to hold rooms on that possibility.
Due to my own business, I realize there are times when frequent travelers don't know how far they might travel in one day. Sometimes it's difficult to pinpoint exactly where one will 'bed down' for the night. It has been my experience that if I estimate that I will be in one of two locations and reserve both, I have absolutely no hassle in cancelling the the unnecessary reservation. I call the hotel where I won't be staying, explain that I was unsure where I would end up for the night and simply cancel the extra reservation. I have never once been charged for a room where I didn't sleep and, most importantly, I always have a room reserved with my preferences in order.
Sorry to ramble on so much. Just had to get this off my chest.
Enjoying the wireless internet @ a Hampton Inn!
p-soir
Longtime reader of this forum, first time poster. Tonight, while checking in at a Hampton Inn location in Tennessee, I saw a spectacle so upsetting to me that I thought I would finally join the forum and post.
There was a gentleman (term used very loosely) at the desk in front of me badgering the front desk agent because the hotel was sold out and he had not made an advance reservation. His words were, "I am a DIAMOND VIP. What are you going to do for me?" The agent kind of shrugged and said something to the effect that there was nothing she would be able to do except try to help him make a reservation at the next closest Hilton family hotel, 120 miles away, or a different hotel chain someplace closer.
The man screamed, yelled, showed his ugly side and was quite demanding to know why there were no rooms "on reserve" for Diamond VIP HHonors members, and did the front desk agent know just how much money he spends a year in Hampton Inns... He finally stormed out of the hotel yelling that "the Diamond Desk will hear about this..."
After such an event, I was nearly embarrassed to check in with my own Diamond card. I had made an advance reservation.
The moral of the story, folks: learn the program if you're going to use it. For Diamond VIP status, reservations are guaranteed outside 48 hrs. of arrival with the exception of certain black-out periods for the individual hotel location (ie, Indy 500, Mardi Gras, etc.) That's the perk, right there. If the hotel is sold out and you're calling a few days before arrival, another guest will be 'walked' to allow a Diamond VIP member to stay.
It's ridiculous to think that any hotel would set rooms aside on any night (let alone a busy night) for Diamond VIP members who just happen to walk in off the street. Not only is that idea not part of the program, it doesn't make good sense for the hotel to hold rooms on that possibility.
Due to my own business, I realize there are times when frequent travelers don't know how far they might travel in one day. Sometimes it's difficult to pinpoint exactly where one will 'bed down' for the night. It has been my experience that if I estimate that I will be in one of two locations and reserve both, I have absolutely no hassle in cancelling the the unnecessary reservation. I call the hotel where I won't be staying, explain that I was unsure where I would end up for the night and simply cancel the extra reservation. I have never once been charged for a room where I didn't sleep and, most importantly, I always have a room reserved with my preferences in order.
Sorry to ramble on so much. Just had to get this off my chest.
Enjoying the wireless internet @ a Hampton Inn!
p-soir
#4
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I bet that having a tantrum has probably worked for that particular Diamond at some point in the past. I don't think getting that upset really solves anything though.
#6
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Tantrum method
Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
I bet that having a tantrum has probably worked for that particular Diamond at some point in the past. I don't think getting that upset really solves anything though.
Agree with everyone above...the guy (I won't refer to him as a gentleman) was a jackass....welcome aboard "provisoir" and the "..." isn't posting or lurking around here.
#7


Join Date: Jan 2002
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Originally Posted by provisoir
Sorry to ramble on so much. Just had to get this off my chest.
Welcome to FT, and do not be shy about posting!
As you look into different forums including HH you will lots of examples of FTs asking for benefits that were not due to them. Nothing new there. Surpirses me that so many FTs are actually unaware of where to get the information!
#8
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He's lucky I wasn't behind the counter, I would have told him where to stick his Diamond Card!
We always complain about bad customer service or service oriented issues, I wonder if hotels have a a way to track BAD CUSTOMERS with issues
We always complain about bad customer service or service oriented issues, I wonder if hotels have a a way to track BAD CUSTOMERS with issues
#10
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Originally Posted by SkeptiCallie
@:-) The Hampton clerk should have suggested Motel 6.


#11
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Thanks for the kind welcome!
As someone who plays by the rules, and has been rewarded handsomely for doing so, it just frustrates me to stand behind someone who is trying to 'flex muscle' and throw his weight around thinking a scene will get him his way.
The lady at the desk last night was very patient and helpful in spite of the challenges she faced with this particular member. As I mentioned, she did suggest helping the guy make reservations in another hotel which is above and beyond what I might have suggested! (
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Anyway, thanks for reading and, again, for the very warm welcome.
p-soir
As someone who plays by the rules, and has been rewarded handsomely for doing so, it just frustrates me to stand behind someone who is trying to 'flex muscle' and throw his weight around thinking a scene will get him his way.
The lady at the desk last night was very patient and helpful in spite of the challenges she faced with this particular member. As I mentioned, she did suggest helping the guy make reservations in another hotel which is above and beyond what I might have suggested! (
)Anyway, thanks for reading and, again, for the very warm welcome.
p-soir
#12
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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You know, it's amazing to me how many Diamonds I encounter who are very poorly behaved.
I had one walk up to the dedicated HH check in line the other day. There happened to be no one standing at that station at that moment. At the same time, a clerk several stations over took someone from the general check in line. The Diamond shouted down "oh, go ahead and take anyone, you b****!"... Luckily for him this particular clerk didn't hear him, because he would not have been staying in our hotel that night. As it is, that little gesture ensured he would not be the Diamond getting upgraded to the sold-out Executive level that night. His traveling companions were visibly quite embarassed by his display.
Compare and contrast to the next person who walked up. He noticed no one was there to greet him, and motioned over to me if it would be ok for him to wait there. He was checked in next, and he got a very nice upgrade.
When you check in to a hotel, you have a choice of how the staff will perceive you. It will directly impact the quality of your stay. If you are rude and embarassing, you will receive the bare minimum acceptable level of service guaranteed to you. If the staff like you, they will go above and beyond, in every single property I've worked. And know that if you are rude to anyone, everyone will know.
I had one walk up to the dedicated HH check in line the other day. There happened to be no one standing at that station at that moment. At the same time, a clerk several stations over took someone from the general check in line. The Diamond shouted down "oh, go ahead and take anyone, you b****!"... Luckily for him this particular clerk didn't hear him, because he would not have been staying in our hotel that night. As it is, that little gesture ensured he would not be the Diamond getting upgraded to the sold-out Executive level that night. His traveling companions were visibly quite embarassed by his display.
Compare and contrast to the next person who walked up. He noticed no one was there to greet him, and motioned over to me if it would be ok for him to wait there. He was checked in next, and he got a very nice upgrade.
When you check in to a hotel, you have a choice of how the staff will perceive you. It will directly impact the quality of your stay. If you are rude and embarassing, you will receive the bare minimum acceptable level of service guaranteed to you. If the staff like you, they will go above and beyond, in every single property I've worked. And know that if you are rude to anyone, everyone will know.
#13
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Aside from the Reno quasi-Hilton, I've only had a couple of instances of not-so-pleasant check-in staff - and dozens of of them who've been excellent.
I've never been a Diamond, but isn't that what the Diamond Desk is for - to over-ride room availability if possible? He should have contacted them prior to showing up. That clerk deserves one of those "You've Been Caught" forms for dealing with this fool so nicely (offering to book elsewhere).
Welcome Provisoir - please post often!
I've never been a Diamond, but isn't that what the Diamond Desk is for - to over-ride room availability if possible? He should have contacted them prior to showing up. That clerk deserves one of those "You've Been Caught" forms for dealing with this fool so nicely (offering to book elsewhere).
Welcome Provisoir - please post often!
#14
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I would imagine, MDtR-Chicago, that Diamonds are your best AND your worst guests.
I would contrast this with airline elites, where I think the lower level elites tend to be the worst.
I would contrast this with airline elites, where I think the lower level elites tend to be the worst.
#15
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Originally Posted by Points Scrounger
Aside from the Reno quasi-Hilton, I've only had a couple of instances of not-so-pleasant check-in staff - and dozens of of them who've been excellent.
I've never been a Diamond, but isn't that what the Diamond Desk is for - to over-ride room availability if possible? He should have contacted them prior to showing up. That clerk deserves one of those "You've Been Caught" forms for dealing with this fool so nicely (offering to book elsewhere).
Welcome Provisoir - please post often!
I've never been a Diamond, but isn't that what the Diamond Desk is for - to over-ride room availability if possible? He should have contacted them prior to showing up. That clerk deserves one of those "You've Been Caught" forms for dealing with this fool so nicely (offering to book elsewhere).
Welcome Provisoir - please post often!
I bet Mr. Angry Diamond probably called the diamond desk and they told him there wasn't any availability and thought he could "bully" his way in.
Anyone who would threaten to call the Diamond desk usually does it AT the check in desk of the property they are trying to get into. Some descrete people may go to a secluded place in the lobby or a parking area.
He bluffed and lost! This is a prime example of one diamond out of the many diamonds inflating his own self importance.



