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this is a really helpful thread
We appreciate all the good info posted here. However it's veering off HH specific issues so if we could bring it back to HH that'd be great./
thanks squeakr co Mod HH |
Originally Posted by celticanvil
(Post 19527036)
Have any ft'ers been comped in the past for similar experiences?
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Originally Posted by It'sHip2B^2
(Post 19529907)
I'm usually in a hotel 2 nights a week over perhaps 25-30 weeks a year.
Over 2000 nights and no bedbugs as yet.... |
Originally Posted by celticanvil
(Post 19527036)
Have any ft'ers been comped in the past for similar experiences?
Left my suitcase and everything in the car in the driveway and peeled off my clothing into the washer as soon as I stepped into the house. The next day I went to the car, opened the suitcase and spread the contents around in the back. Parked it in the sun, turned it on, turned on the heat full blast, stuck a thermometer on the seat and watched it go up to over 130 degrees. I let it bake for over two hours with the car running. Then gathered all of the clothing and put it into the washer on hot and inspected everything else very carefully. Fortunately I had no hitch hikers. |
Originally Posted by It'sHip2B^2
(Post 19528917)
I always wash my clothes and bag (I made a special washable garment bag just for my bed bug obsessive fear) the moment I return home. Everything goes into the wash and a dry immediately afterward.
Bedbugs like small places, if your bag was in the room then there is a change that it had a bug or two in it. Personally, I'd ditch the bag in a location far from home. Your toiletries can be tossed. I'd put my toiletry bag in the freezer for a few weeks. Cold will eventually kill any hitchhikers (but heat does it much faster). Here's my protocol: 1) Ditch bags and pay a coin laundry place near the hotel to wash all my clothes. 2) Buy tossable, washable (which I wash before my clean clothes go in it) duffle bag at Walmart/Target/whereever. 3) Toss my toiletries and get new. 4) Freeze any small stuff that I can't toss for 2 weeks. 5) Disassemble my cell/laptop/other non-tossable electronics to check for very, very small first/second stage bedbug. A hot hairdryer will encourage them to come out of hiding to look for more suitable hiding place. I believe that 140 degree is the kill 'em temp. 6) Anything that can be put in the dryer at a hot temp, will be there for a cycle. 7) Wash everything the minute I get home. Good job on checking! Prevention is the best way. How to check for bed bugs: 1) Don't bring your stuff into the room until it's thoroughly checked. 2) If (1) isn't possible put all your stuff in the tub, since bed bugs aren't likely to hang out there unless the infestation is really bad. 3) Lift up sheets and mattress cover to examine the mattress. Don't just look for bugs. They are small and they hid. You might not see them. Look instead for evidence, i.e. fecal matter. If you see little brownish or red-ish dots, you don't want that room! 4) Run a business card around the headboard, wall side of furnishings, pictures, mirrors, light fixtures, any small crevice that a bed bug might like to hide. You should check the card often. It should come out clean. No bugs or fecal matter evidence. With practice you'll learn what is paint transfer and what isn't. 5) Check other furnishing in the room as you would the bed. 6) Move furniture to examine the walls behind. You don't want to see bugs or brown-ish dots. 7) Check the sheets for bugs and/or fecal matter spots. 8) Use a hair dryer on the mattress. Heat will make the bugs active. They don't like heat. They will look for cooler places. 9) Lift the mattress to examine beneath it. 10) Use a pen light in dark places. If you are really crazy like me, you will keep all your electronics zipped up in ziplock bags when they aren't in use in a well lit area under your hawk eye. A big enough ziplock bag can easily fit your laptop bag. For one (and this is a true statement :) ) : Bedbugs like you more than your stuff. So there is NO WAY that your laptop or bag or whatever might have been infested if you are not bitten. That simple. (and alcohol will not kill bedbugs -real, not imaginary- unless it is followed by flames) |
Morning all.
OK: A simple lab experiment in English for all interested to observe Put a few in a jar, and continue to spray-fog it with alcohol for a few minutes. Notice they eventually suffocate, as other insects ( spiders, cockroaches, fleas, lice ) do. However the eggs as mentioned before may not, and thus the problem can rise again. Same with gnats, mosquitos, and flies, which you can also see for yourself. You can also do this with other household sanitizing agents such as Lysol, etc. Quite true that the continual spray of liquid will eventually kill the insect, via the tracheal system and spiracles, as they don't have lungs. The comment made above about the parasitical support host being human is spot on correct. In an infested environment, you become the new host, thus " spreading the weath " wherever you then go, unless bedbugs and other parasites have evolved to the point of obtaining nourishment from a laptop, IPAD, or tablet. Might be a great sci-fi script to work on for someone. OK students of travelling, a question: Do bedbugs carry disease ? |
Originally Posted by cordelli
(Post 19528262)
Insect control is most certainly not beyond the control of the hotel.
The staff should be trained to recognize them when they are flipping rooms so that the hotel can do something about them. Compensation is most certainly warranted to clean the stuff that may have been infested. |
Originally Posted by Allvest
(Post 19532967)
Originally Posted by It'sHip2B^2
(Post 19529907)
I'm usually in a hotel 2 nights a week over perhaps 25-30 weeks a year.
Over 2000 nights and no bedbugs as yet.... Bed bugs travel in luggage/bags/small crevices (like those you find in electronics) not on the host. They can live quite some time with out feeding on a host (I've read up to a year). Non adult bed bugs are translucent and pin sized. They can fit anywhere that seems dark, tight, and safe. |
Homewood Suites by Hilton Charlotte-North/Univ Research Park has admitted to having bedbugs in Room 317 according to local tv report.
http://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/loca...-during/nWs5d/ |
BBC new article on bedbugs
Bed bugs 'dodge insecticides' with molecular tricks
"They are one of the toughest pests to get rid of. Vacating your bed - or even home - will not help, as the insects can survive for months without food, hiding away until their meal returns. Direct exposure to insecticides - the most widely used are synthetic organic compounds called pyrethroids - was once an effective way to kill off the pests. But not any more. Prof Palli said that the bed bugs had developed a number of biological systems to avoid death by poison." |
I've experienced bed bugs from 2* to 5* hotels before. The key is to have the bed sheets changed everyday and I find keeping the room cool helps. I have high blood sugar before and found that generally Mosquitos like me.
I've never asked for compensation, but your case sounds extreme. |
Every single hotel in the world has had bed begs - including **all** of the 5-star ones.
When you enter a hotel room, ALWAYS check along the bed headboard / under sheets for the little red dots... |
While i would obviously be pissed about having bitten by bed bugs,i feel for the hotel guys as they have to compensate for something,that isn't entirely in their hand and it is something that is a bigger loss to them,then for the customer who did stay in the room
And The manager,who rather then rubbishing this topic,actually accepted the fact.I have seen many times the staff clearly doesnt recognize issues like this.Has happened to me twice,while i was presumely staying and One of those hotels was a top notch SPG property. |
Those bed bugs are hard to spot.. almost microscopic.
But boy, can those bed bugs deliver a world of hurt. I was kind of hoping someone can chime in on whether it helps to keep the room cool to prevent bed bugs? That's what I've found anyways in my travels. Any tips to reducing bed bugs? I found having the sheets changed each day really helps. |
Originally Posted by arizonawildcat
(Post 22540765)
I actually disagree with the post above, although respect that opinion.
With any negotiation, you need to clearly state your position first to anchor the discussion. This needs to be outside of the other party's "acceptable zone". By opening extreme, you can slowly ratchet back your ask until you are just inside their range where they will accept. It's a simple but very effective strategy as the other party will actually perceive that they are getting you to move off your ask when in reality it is a much different scenario playing out. Just do your homework in what you think might be an acceptable range for your situation and open well above that. Best of luck and sorry to hear that you had to deal with this. Does the Management get a lump some of points for compensation every year, month, quarter from which to comp with and are there bonuses or highmarks for not using the points for comps? Are comp points purchased by properties for cash? Are there strict matrices to be followed when comping? The amounts seem to be some what tiered by property tier, like is suggested about being guided by how many points would it take to stay an equal amount of time at that hotel. But that's an amount thing, if there is a matrix to be dealt with sometimes you just have to find the magic words to lump another way you've been inconvenience to ratchet up the compensation? I'm sure there is a thread... but you really have to know at least a ball park of how much something is worth to another party before you can even make an opener. |
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