Premium Room Reward only at certain properties - Major Devaluation of HH points
Oct 14, 2011, 2:03 pm
#271
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not true....there have been times where a good diamond agent has worked wonders for me & got me some great diamond force redemption bookings....
Oct 14, 2011, 2:14 pm
#273
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Also, no matter what the rate differential, unless it is insignificant, is, I doubt many people would take advantage of a "premium" room. People that have significant points are probably Diamond and will take their chances at most properties. Those that have less points would probably not use them on an upgrade (unless, of course, it is a very special occasion) and save them for a future stay.
Oct 14, 2011, 2:19 pm
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You are correct about the chances of a comp upgrade. However, I would much prefer to have a guaranteed OWB rather than take my chances on a comp upgrade.
Also, no matter what the rate differential, unless it is insignificant, is, I doubt many people would take advantage of a "premium" room. People that have significant points are probably Diamond and will take their chances at most properties. Those that have less points would probably not use them on an upgrade (unless, of course, it is a very special occasion) and save them for a future stay.
Also, no matter what the rate differential, unless it is insignificant, is, I doubt many people would take advantage of a "premium" room. People that have significant points are probably Diamond and will take their chances at most properties. Those that have less points would probably not use them on an upgrade (unless, of course, it is a very special occasion) and save them for a future stay.
Oct 14, 2011, 2:23 pm
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The gullible find comfort where they wish to find it. The devaluation will still have hit big time and is sticking in the main.
Oct 14, 2011, 2:25 pm
#276
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Oct 14, 2011, 2:33 pm
#278
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However, the points are worth a whole lot more today than they appeared to be a day ago.
But if you do feel they are "almost useless", I will also be glad to give you some SPG, Marriott or Hyatt points that you must consider much more useful in exchange.
Oct 14, 2011, 2:41 pm
#279
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Agreed that they have been devalued by way of the elimination of the Diamond "Force", creation of the Cat 7 etc.
However, the points are worth a whole lot more today than they appeared to be a day ago.
But if you do feel they are "almost useless", I will also be glad to give you some SPG, Marriott or Hyatt points that you must consider much more useful in exchange.
However, the points are worth a whole lot more today than they appeared to be a day ago.
But if you do feel they are "almost useless", I will also be glad to give you some SPG, Marriott or Hyatt points that you must consider much more useful in exchange.
Last edited by rwalia99; Oct 14, 2011 at 2:51 pm Reason: typo
Oct 14, 2011, 2:53 pm
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Although I hate the fact HHonors devalues its points, it still has the top notch loyalty program in the industry, and the only other chain comparable to HHonors is PC/IC system, both of which offer free breakfasts, free wi-fi, and spacious upgrades for elite members. The best part is: I can earn points from business trips to remote deserted towns on HI, HGI, and HIX, and later on spend those points on high-end premium resorts such as Hilton, WA, and IC.
Even if it will cost more points to redeem a Hilton or WA stay after this devaluation, it is what it is, and sometimes you just cannot win all.
Even if it will cost more points to redeem a Hilton or WA stay after this devaluation, it is what it is, and sometimes you just cannot win all.
Oct 14, 2011, 2:54 pm
#281
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My 300,000+ points were the key to my plans to spend a week in paradise. As of today, they won't get me anything close to that. I do believe that they've been significantly devalued. And I also think that with the developments this week, 300,000 SPG/Hyatt points are better than the equivalent Hilton Honors points.
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Oct 14, 2011, 2:58 pm
#282
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My 300,000+ points were the key to my plans to spend a week in paradise. As of today, they won't get me anything close to that. I do believe that they've been significantly devalued. And I also think that with the developments this week, 300,000 SPG/Hyatt points are better than the equivalent Hilton Honors points.
However, you can not compare 300K HHonors points vs 300K in SPG / Hyatt or any other program. With HHonors you get a multiple of miles as compared to SPG or Hyatt. Just look at CC spending. For HHonors you basically get 3-6 points per dollar spent. For SPG and Hyatt you get 1 point per dollar spent. For staying at a hotel, at Hilton you can get up to approximately 29 points (if I recall correctly) per dollar spent. Hyatt and SPG are significantly less.
Oct 14, 2011, 3:15 pm
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Well, so much for having the "best customer service in every interaction". I sent an email directly to Hilton Customer Care with specific questions along the lines of my earlier post, and I received a response with the exact cut & paste answer that was posted in post # 236. So I wouldn't expect many direct answers to the questions posed to HHonors Representative.
But if you're like me and would like to see HH take on a truly interactive role on FT I do hope you all make your voice heard on this thread:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...endations.html
As I've said before, it's up to us to create the demand. And perhaps if there is a groundswell of "petitioning" FTers then just maybe HH will empower the HHonorsRepresentative to be more active here - and dare I say it - even proactive.
To you naysayers and scoffers and those resigned to take whatever you're handed I say this: if we accept the status quo that is exactly what we'll continue to get.
Oct 14, 2011, 3:33 pm
#285
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Given the 10 year history in this forum of too many pillorying, castigating, and even abusing official HHonors reps (of which there have been several, going back to Adam Burke and even before), if I were HHonors, I'd be leery.