Interim thread for posting hotel category changes that you know of
Jan 14, 2010, 5:52 pm
#77
Join Date: Feb 2009
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I just did a little back of envelope math and Hilton has really screwed up here. I use my Amex Hilton card and can earn 3 points for every dollar I spend. So a Category 7 hotel now costs 50,000 points. That requires me to spend $16,666 to get a free night there. But I can earn $320 cash back with a couple other cards. Except in peak season - when it's hard to get a free room anyhow - very few Hiltons cost more than $240 a night. And the math even gets worse the lower down the category chain you go. Obviously my situation is unique to me but I'll start putting my charges elsewhere. I charge $1 million a year on my cards for my small business. There are plenty of cards out there that want that business.
P.S. One exception may be if you are an American and want to use points to stay in hotels overseas. If the US dollar declines then it will at least be a better deal for us.
P.S. One exception may be if you are an American and want to use points to stay in hotels overseas. If the US dollar declines then it will at least be a better deal for us.
Jan 14, 2010, 8:27 pm
#79
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Hilton.Co.Uk now showing new cats
It's Jan 15th in the UK and Hilton.Co.UK is now showing the new categories when you try to book a reward reservation. (Just before 9:30PM central time Jan 14 here is the states).
Jan 14, 2010, 8:44 pm
#80
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: TXL
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Nice catch, you can simply enter the city, check 'Use HHonors reward point' checkbox and it'll show the cats - not even logging in required.
Jan 14, 2010, 8:45 pm
#81
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Some More Properties
London:
Hilton London Docklands Cat 4 to Cat 5
Australia:
Hilton Adelaide, Australia Cat 3 to Cat 4
New York
West 57th St by Hilton Club = Cat 9 (????!!!)
New Cat 6 (were Cat 5):
Hilton Garden Inn New York/Tribeca
Hampton Inn Manhattan-SoHo
Hampton Inn Manhattan-Chelsea
New Jersey
Hilton Newark Penn Station Cat 4 to Cat 5
Vienna, Austria:
Hilton Vienna Plaza Cat 5 to Cat 6
Hilton Vienna Danube Cat 3 to Cat 4
Hilton Vienna Cat 4 to Cat 6
Hilton London Docklands Cat 4 to Cat 5
Australia:
Hilton Adelaide, Australia Cat 3 to Cat 4
New York
West 57th St by Hilton Club = Cat 9 (????!!!)
New Cat 6 (were Cat 5):
Hilton Garden Inn New York/Tribeca
Hampton Inn Manhattan-SoHo
Hampton Inn Manhattan-Chelsea
New Jersey
Hilton Newark Penn Station Cat 4 to Cat 5
Vienna, Austria:
Hilton Vienna Plaza Cat 5 to Cat 6
Hilton Vienna Danube Cat 3 to Cat 4
Hilton Vienna Cat 4 to Cat 6
Last edited by TULOKCICT; Jan 14, 2010 at 8:58 pm
Jan 14, 2010, 9:11 pm
#84
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Location: TXL
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In Japan 5 went up one cat, 3 remained the same (Nagoya 5, Hilton Tokyo 6, Osaka 5).
In Germany all 12 went up one cat.
In Austria 3 one cat up, 1 (Hilton Vienna hotel) 2 cat up
In Germany all 12 went up one cat.
In Austria 3 one cat up, 1 (Hilton Vienna hotel) 2 cat up
Last edited by freakazoid; Jan 14, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Jan 14, 2010, 9:11 pm
#85
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Trying to find an International Cat 1
China:
Hilton Chongqing Cat 1 to Cat 3
Hilton Hefei Cat 1 to Cat 3
Doubletree by Hilton Resort Wuxi Lingshan Cat 1 to Cat 3
Canada:
Hampton Inn & Suites by Hilton Windsor Cat 1 to Cat 3
Mexico:
Hampton Inn by Hilton Chihuahua City Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Saltillo Airport Area Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Monterrey-Airport Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Reynosa/Zona Industrial Cat 1 to Cat 2
Oman:
Hilton Salalah Resort Cat 1 to Cat 3
Turkey:
Hilton Kayseri Cat 1 to Cat 3
Mersin HiltonSA Cat 1 to Cat 3
BTW, the Hilton Dalaman Resort & Spa (All Inclusive) is listed as a Cat 10
Hilton Chongqing Cat 1 to Cat 3
Hilton Hefei Cat 1 to Cat 3
Doubletree by Hilton Resort Wuxi Lingshan Cat 1 to Cat 3
Canada:
Hampton Inn & Suites by Hilton Windsor Cat 1 to Cat 3
Mexico:
Hampton Inn by Hilton Chihuahua City Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Saltillo Airport Area Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Monterrey-Airport Cat 1 to CAT 1!!!!
Hampton Inn by Hilton Reynosa/Zona Industrial Cat 1 to Cat 2
Oman:
Hilton Salalah Resort Cat 1 to Cat 3
Turkey:
Hilton Kayseri Cat 1 to Cat 3
Mersin HiltonSA Cat 1 to Cat 3
BTW, the Hilton Dalaman Resort & Spa (All Inclusive) is listed as a Cat 10
Jan 14, 2010, 9:37 pm
#87
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San Francisco Bay Area has one category increase for nearly all hotels. 50,000 points to stay in San Francisco city at any of three Hilton hotels.
I can understand Embassy Suites SFO in South San Francisco going from Cat 4 to Cat 5, but it is outrageous that the Hampton Inn next door to the Embassy Suites has increased from cat 3 to Cat 5.
These changes look bad...really bad.
I can understand Embassy Suites SFO in South San Francisco going from Cat 4 to Cat 5, but it is outrageous that the Hampton Inn next door to the Embassy Suites has increased from cat 3 to Cat 5.
These changes look bad...really bad.
Jan 14, 2010, 10:10 pm
#88
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Miami: DT Surfcomber becomes a 7, Conrad stays a 6, Hilton Downtown remains a 4
Dubrovnik, Croatia: Cat 5 > 7
Prague Old Town: Cat 5 > 6
Booked 4 nights in Dubrovnik and 2 in Prague.
But I admit I calmed down quite a bit when the rep confirmed (as others have) that Amex AXON awards are moving in lockstep with the increases. Cat 6 will be 125K and Cat 7 will be 145K.
Dubrovnik, Croatia: Cat 5 > 7
Prague Old Town: Cat 5 > 6
Booked 4 nights in Dubrovnik and 2 in Prague.
But I admit I calmed down quite a bit when the rep confirmed (as others have) that Amex AXON awards are moving in lockstep with the increases. Cat 6 will be 125K and Cat 7 will be 145K.
Jan 14, 2010, 11:10 pm
#89
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I found one that will actually cost less: Hampton Inn, Deming NM stays at a Category 1
