Questions About Avg Daily Play

Old Feb 16, 11, 11:30 am
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Questions About Avg Daily Play

I'm new to Vegas - I've only been once and we split our play between Harrahs (some Ceasars)/Palms/Hard Rock. I don't know if I bet a lot by the standards you guys have, but I did manage to get an assigned host at Hard Rock which may not be a big deal I don't know but he followed me around all night so that was weird. I got 6.5k points TR points, so I guess my play (only craps/BJ) was rated pretty highly?

My roommate and I are planning a mileage run and got it to route through Vegas, but we will only be there from 8 pm til 8 am. I've read on here that a "gambling day" is 6am - 6am. Assuming my play for that first trip WAS rated highly, should I be concerned about "diluting" it by making bets after 6am. We would have to leave soon after, I just don't want to place a bet on the way out the door which adds a day to that rating if that is how it works.

Thanks for your help. Like I said, I am new to the game. I get offers now but I am sure everyone does. I probably should have inquired about the Plat in a Day thing, but I didn't know about it. I also would have done Harrah's properties only if I knew about comps, cause we gambled a lot at Palms/Hard Rock. If it matters, I'd guess my average BJ hand is $150 to $200 depending on my intoxication level. I did have like 3k on the craps table for a while at Harrah's... might influence the "ranking".
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Old Mar 1, 14, 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by fragment54 View Post
I'm new to Vegas - I've only been once and we split our play between Harrahs (some Ceasars)/Palms/Hard Rock. I don't know if I bet a lot by the standards you guys have, but I did manage to get an assigned host at Hard Rock which may not be a big deal I don't know but he followed me around all night so that was weird. I got 6.5k points TR points, so I guess my play (only craps/BJ) was rated pretty highly?

My roommate and I are planning a mileage run and got it to route through Vegas, but we will only be there from 8 pm til 8 am. I've read on here that a "gambling day" is 6am - 6am. Assuming my play for that first trip WAS rated highly, should I be concerned about "diluting" it by making bets after 6am. We would have to leave soon after, I just don't want to place a bet on the way out the door which adds a day to that rating if that is how it works.

Thanks for your help. Like I said, I am new to the game. I get offers now but I am sure everyone does. I probably should have inquired about the Plat in a Day thing, but I didn't know about it. I also would have done Harrah's properties only if I knew about comps, cause we gambled a lot at Palms/Hard Rock. If it matters, I'd guess my average BJ hand is $150 to $200 depending on my intoxication level. I did have like 3k on the craps table for a while at Harrah's... might influence the "ranking".
In general terms and certainly at both The Palms and HRH, if you average $100/hand for 4 hours per day, you earn the free room. $300/hand gets you full room, food and beverage (RFB). $200/hand gets you the room, plus a negotiation with your host at the end of your stay about how much of your incidentals get comped. If you played $150-$200/hand, you laid solid groundwork to be able to call ahead next time for a room comp at either HRH or Palms. Since it sounds like you did not use any comps on this trip, I would not concern yourself about playing over two "days".

To maximize comps, your focus should be on your average bet and time played. Keep this in mind... Let's say you lose your bankroll on the $100 table, but are not ready to go to bed. It's ok to go to the $25 table and drop your bets...just don't give them your players card when they ask for it. Tell them you don't want to be rated for this play. this will bring your average play down.
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Old Mar 16, 14, 11:38 pm
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It's all relative. A few $100 per bet should get you comp RFB. More should get you a comp limo. A few $1000 per hand should get you a private plane (obviously depending on the number of hands and your distance from NV.) RNO is more liberable than LAS.
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Old Mar 17, 14, 1:26 pm
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Old thread, but figured some might be in the same situation.

Average Daily Theoretical (loss) is key to comps at Caesars casinos. You want to maximize your ADT as much as you can. For example, if you are planning a 3 day trip to Vegas, and want to gamble at MGM, Wynn, Venetian, and Caesar's Palace, you would be well advised to pick one of your days to do all of your CP gambling and then stay away from there for the other two days. This is assuming that you are not staying at a Caesar's property. If you have a room in your name on site, then you will trigger 3 days regardless.

In the OP's specific situation, he would not want to put any activity on his card on day 2 (which in his case is between the hours of 6 AM and 8 AM). Any card activity would trigger an extra day, and dilute his ADT.

By card activity, I am including ANY and all cases where you present or use your card, not just gambling in particular. In other words, don't use your card to get a discount on breakfast, or to check your TR info in a kiosk, etc. The casino should not know that you were on property at all that day.
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Old Mar 18, 14, 1:42 am
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Not knowing where you're from, I would think about RNO. Of course, the shows aren't nothing like LAS, but everything is less expensive, and the comps are easier to get. Plus, the climate in RNO is much better than LAS in the summer.
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Old Apr 9, 14, 4:06 pm
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Originally Posted by PIONEER View Post
It's all relative. A few $100 per bet should get you comp RFB. More should get you a comp limo. A few $1000 per hand should get you a private plane (obviously depending on the number of hands and your distance from NV.) RNO is more liberable than LAS.
For private plane flights they spell it out fairly specifically. For instance at places like Wynn and MGM (e.g. Aria, Bellagio, MGM ) they base it on a minimum credit line or front money and expect you to hit a theoretical loss equal to 25% of that. The lowest level at which private flights starts used to be at $500k ($125k theoretical loss) prior to last year but now its been raised to $1 million ($250k theoretical loss) and this is just for a private plane from the west coast. In other words, it is very difficult to get a private plane comped.

For non-Vegas destinations many casinos do charter flights that are very easy to qualify for, on those even a fairly small gambler can get a seat.
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Old Apr 10, 14, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by SpartanTraveler View Post
For private plane flights they spell it out fairly specifically. For instance at places like Wynn and MGM (e.g. Aria, Bellagio, MGM ) they base it on a minimum credit line or front money and expect you to hit a theoretical loss equal to 25% of that. The lowest level at which private flights starts used to be at $500k ($125k theoretical loss) prior to last year but now its been raised to $1 million ($250k theoretical loss) and this is just for a private plane from the west coast. In other words, it is very difficult to get a private plane comped.

For non-Vegas destinations many casinos do charter flights that are very easy to qualify for, on those even a fairly small gambler can get a seat.
Like I said, it's all relative. You're right about the charter flights which don't take that much of a line, but then you're stuck with their schedule and basically coach seats. Next level is they'll comp you for a commercial flight, maybe in F. Beyond that, you can get a private prop or jet on your own schedule, depending on where you're coming from. For RNO that is generally a 6 figure line, and then there is the possibility of a comp trip for Alaska fishing, a cruise, or whatever. I've done numerous of these and have had a few big wins, but overall you need to be thinking that you're going to be cleaned out, so don't do it unless you have 6 figrures to spare.
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