I wouldn't expect much if anything if it's busy (such as if even a moderately-well-known DJ is playing). I have mentioned previously in this thread that the nightclub benefit of mLife was largely a farce - as an mLife plat, I have been denied benefits at even second-tier nightclubs.

It is always better to deal with the nightclub directly by contacting the nightclub hosts. For the most hassle-free entry, best is to pre-purchase GA and get there before the ticket says to get there.


The Hakkasan brand long predates Wet Republic, just FYI.

Yes, I know. There is one just a few blocks from me in SF And I know that they have a few more locations too. But, isn't the Vegas one the only nightclub? The in SF is purely a restaurant (or so I've been told; I've never actually been there)

RE: Getting denied benefits, I know that a lot of times when they agree to these deals, it takes a long time to trickle down to the people actually working there, so some of the employees may not know. Also, the people working the door probably don't care; they have goals to meet and if you aren't helping they might feed you some BS to get rid of you.

If you have a host, a quick call or text to your host should help. If you know where you are going in advance, just ask your host beforehand if they can put you on the guest list.

My issue isn't with the nightclubs - it's that MGM/mLife should not be advertising/publishing a benefit that they know isn't being honored. As this and other threads show, it creates false expectations among mLife elites and stinks for those elites who plan around these false expectations.

I have posted in this thread and on this forum that when the nightclub benefit was published during the mLife rollout, I figured that it wouldn't be honored. I went out of my way to test that at multiple properties (which was more difficult than I anticipated, as I'm a nightclub regular); nevertheless, my belief was confirmed. mLife is more than 4 years old and many of these denials of benefits occurred well after the rollout, and if you interact at all with nightclub hosts you know as well as I do that they know about the stated mLife benefit - they just don't want the bother. But again - even then, I don't at all blame the nightclubs, only MGM/mLife for offering something they know is a farce.

As far as advice for getting in clubs, I'll repeat what I said in my last post: Don't bother with casino hosts or guest list, work with the nightclub hosts directly. And for the most hassle-free entry, pre-purchase GA tix and get there before the ticket says to get there.

I can't agree with this. Once, some of my friends wanted to see Calvin Harris at Hakkasan while we were all there on a long weekend. I texted my host, and she said that we could just pay at the door and room-charge it. I replied that that was fine, but the line for GA would be really long and I didn't want to wait. So, she put us on a list and gave me the name of a person to talk to at the door (one of the nighclub hosts, I guess -- I did not know her). We got there, went to the front, and I told the first person that I saw that my casino host told me to ask for <name of nighclub host>. The nightclub host asked my name, asked who my casino host was, and took us in through the entrance that they usually use for people who reserve tables. The whole thing took 5 min, and 3 of those minutes were waiting for the nightclub host to come over. They didn't even charge us for entry (I was expecting to have to do a room charge for admission, but they didn't ask, so I didn't bring it up. I think that this was a mistake on their part).

These are the sort of things that hosts can do for you. It's definitely worth asking IMO. What you are suggesting is a good idea if you don't have a host.

How can you disagree when your post supports my point? It worked out because your casino host happened to have a good relationship with a nightclub host, no different than a beneficial introduction to a nightclub host any other way. Of course it doesn't hurt to ask, but it could have also turned out differently had your casino host not had a good relationship with the nightclub host.

BTW, pre-purchasing GA tix and arriving before the stated time essentially means no waiting in line; your host gave you very bad advice by telling you to pay at the door. Getting presales in is one aspect Vegas nightclubs are very good about, especially compared to other cities. The only people standing outside a club waiting are the ones wanting freebies, much like in the guest list line.

No, I don't think so.

If I had just contacted the nightclub host beforehand (who did not know me) there is no way in hell that I would have been treated that well. They would have basically said, get a table, or wait in line with everyone else. They have no reason to treat me any better than anyone else coming to the club. On the other hand, my host DOES have a reason to see that I am treated better than the average club-goer, due to my play. By leaving my casino host out of the equation, I am losing whatever I might get as a result of that play.

I think you are missing my point. Because my host called ahead, I did not have to stand in line. I did not have to show up early. I didn't even have to pay (although, as I said, I think that was an error on their part). We just showed up at our leisure and walked right in.

The reason that there is no line when you show up early is because no one wants to show up early. I'm no different. By going through my host, I don't have to, and I still don't have to wait in line.

The problem with pre-purchasing tickets is that you can't usually charge them to your room (they are usually done through a third-party ticket seller) which means that you probably aren't getting them comped (although some hosts might reimburse you if you give them receipts). Anything I charge to my room is going to be comped (within reason, of course). So I don't want to pay out of pocket unless if it's absolutely necessary. I am usually showing up for a trip with much more resort credit than I end up using (unless I'm throwing a party there, in which case I will use it all + some of my banked express comps) so paying for things out of pocket doesn't make much sense.

The one time I did have to pre-purchase tickets for something, again, I went through my casino host. They wrote a hard comp (this was for thousands of dollars), took the resort credit off my upcoming stay, and deducted the balance from my express comps.

I do have a Light Group host that I work with as well, and that works fine for reserving tables / cabanas if they don't require pre-payment (when I get there, they just take a room number and ID instead of a credit card) but if they do require pre-payment, it requires going through the casino host as well.

Why on earth not? The only difference is the order in which events happen. Even contacting the casino host first, you still had to give your casino hosts' name to get an in with the club host, and that was my point.

The reason to contact the nightclub host directly is to get some level of assurance about reality rather than depend on a casino host to try to get something he can't possibly guarantee. It is not to say that the nightclub host will be able to help better or that some other information/connection isn't required to have an in.


Nope, it's just that as per usual you're being needlessly argumentative. I clearly stated that my advice was from the standpoint of reliable ways to get in the club (hence my word choice - "hassle-free", "assurance", etc.). As you admit, you're approaching from getting things comped, so of course you aim to do things differently. Heck, there is an entire forum on a 1mil+ hits/mo message board basically dedicated to how to get into Vegas nightclubs for free, but that's not what I was discussing.

I quit playing in MLIFE a few years ago; I went for 7* in CET. Beginning with 4/1/15 (noted in another thread), the perks are diminishing.
Once I cross 150,000 TC and re-qualify for 7*, I was planning to do the rest of my gambling with MLIFE. Their qualifying year begins 10/1/15; wouldn't waiting until then be the best time to resume play?

It would seem to depend entirely upon what the object/your goal is. Do you have a specific MLife tier you wish to attain? If so, then the second part of the question would be what level and what frequency do you play?

As you observed, MLife tier qualifying year begins October 1st. I re-upped for Platinum for 2016 (10-1-15 thru 9-30-16) by early January of 2015 (3+ months). There are probably others that are "Noir forever" (if there even is such a thing), while it might take others 11+ months to attain Gold or whatever.

As others have opined, simply "playing for status" (in ANY program) is statistically and financially a bad idea and a poor proposition. In my case, "status" is just something that happens by virtue of the frequency and level at which I play. That is to say status level (any level) is something that just "happens", not something I'm directly focused on attaining in and of itself.

YMMV

I did get to Platinum level in Mlife before I quit.
I'm close to requalifying for 7* in CET--but getting beyond 150,000 TC doesn't get me enough extras; at 250,000 TC a few more nice things happen.
[Borgata in AC had a link with Mlife, which was severed...there are rumors it may be restored--that would be even more of an impetus to switch to Mlife.]
[CET may have to be dismantled--so having another system to play in could be useful to me.]

Borgata Titanium status is nice.

When Borgata had its link with Mlife, I played much more there than I do now. Then Titanium was a possibility. Playing a lot in an "isolated" casino has too many minuses for me. Mlife and CET have lots of casinos in their systems.
Mlife Noir is "supposed" to be equivalent to CET 7*--but I've searched the net, there is little info as to how much you have to gamble to become Noir (by invitation only is all I could OFFICIALY find).

going to vegas for the 4th of july as Mlife gold - planning on a couple edm concerts at Hakkasan at MGM Grand and Wet Republic at MGM Grand. Think I'll be able to skip the lines? or should I get in touch with a host? Any advice is appreciated, thanks!

When I was a Plat, my online tracker thing seemed to be tracking to 1 million TP for Noir. I believe that is the minimum requirement to be eligible for an invite, but then you still need to actually get the invite (which I imagine is triggered by some additional factors).

The tracker on the mlife website still does that, but it is not a minimum requirement. This is not even considering mlife has handed out comp Noir status - they have even given it away promotionally.