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The FlyerTalk Lending Team on Kiva:
improving lives a small loan at a time.
Kiva.org is the not-for-profit microlending organization that networks people willing to lend to small entrepreneurs in developing nations using available technology and international networking / collaboration, and how Kiva.org had become an approved FlyerTalk charity thanks to TalkBoard's approval June 29, 2008 <link> It is listed on the FlyerTalk Cares page.

"Kiva is a grassroots project started by a team with a big idea: one-to-one, real-time lending to the poor via the Internet. Currently, we take no cut of the loan you make through our site -- 100% goes to the entrepreneur. We suggest a 10% donation, in addition to your loan, to help us cover our costs. Kiva is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit and your donation is tax-deductible for US taxpayers." (Suggested donations for administrative overhead, low though that is, are not required - you may lend 100% if you so choose.)
Since June 2008, a FlyerTalker Lending Team has formed on Kiva.org; there were ten of us with 55 loans worth $1,375.00 as of Feb 27, 2009. But...

As of 15 May 2016 it was 607 FlyerTalk lending team who have lent $2,209,175 in 37,092 loans! And now as of 30 June 2019 it is 941 members who have lent $6,415,775 in 71,722 loans!

Our motto is: "We loan because: We want to fight global poverty while earning miles."

This is tangible evidence Flyertalk Cares! There are likely other FlyerTalkers on Kiva who have not joined - if you are one of them, do so now to show your and FT's support and involvement. If you haven't lent yet, check it out - you may want to join up. For the low-income entrepreneurs on five continents who are requesting loans, microlending is significant - and it takes a lot of drops to fill the bucket. (Read on to see updates!)

Now, we can see this sophisticated network link resources from those who can lend (no interest, sorry!) with those who are needy, worthy and screened by local NGOs and have a need to start / expand their small business to enhance their and their families' survival. And, using PayPal and your FFP/FFG linked card or account, you can earn miles or points with many loans!

FlyerTalkers are lending, and fulfilling one of FT's seminal values, that of "paying it forward."

Read more about Kiva.org, who supports and enables it (Intel, Google, Paypal, Intuit and many others,) and see if you have $25.00 (or more) you can lend someone deserving in a land you have visited and enjoyed (or not.)

This is how it works:

Add your experiences here, or if you haven't joined... won't you consider joining the FlyerTalker Lending Team?

You can see who the latest FT borrowers are (some still possibly needing loans) here

For ease, you can click here: Subscribe to FlyerTalker Lending Team on Kiva.org
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FlyerTalker Lending Team on Kiva.org!

Old Jul 18, 09, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Jenbel
Just joined and took on my first loan
Great! One of mine was paid back early, so I loaned it out again today. This time to a Lebanese woman who makes paper bags at home with some squares of paper and a glue pot. She wants a machine that makes bags so she can speed up production.
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Old Jul 19, 09, 9:03 am
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MStieb, wildblue, weather, gj83, Jenbel, RCyyz and all, welcome aboard!

I agree this is a great opportunity to link those of us interested in helping by giving a hand up (not the "hand out" we sometimes get faced with by those who may be less than worthy / entrepreneurial beyond begging or scamming) to those looking to better their lives by hard work.

I have taken a hit on one loan (of a number) - ex-partner ADMIC in Mexico has a large number of loan defaults due to the impact of the economic crisis in Mexico, and potentially other issues; Kiva suspended them from being active partners and has specialists looking to see what can be salvaged and what help they might need if they are salvageable. I trust Kiva to do the right thing, either way.

As for potential currency exchange hits, read the page form as you loan, and you are likely to see the loan is protected from currency exchanges.

Like lili - and many of you - I log in and reloan what has been paid back, and I also tend to inject a bit more from time to time. I try to keep my Kiva credit as low as I can - it's currently $4.72.

We're up to a respectable:

60 members
235 loans (!)
$6,850.00 in loans
3.92 average number of loans per FT lending team member

(I've also involved others who are even in some cases starting their own teams or joining others - kind of like weather's great idea of forwarding the information on to her women's group.)
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Old Jul 24, 09, 2:24 am
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Just did loan number 10 and now my Kiva credit has been reset to $0. :-)

I've yet to have anyone default and everyone is paying on schedule or ahead of schedule. This is such an impressive operation that Kiva has going. Keep on passing the word, FTers!
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Old Jul 24, 09, 4:31 am
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I was already on Kiva but will have to look for the FT team next time I log in. Good initiative!
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Old Jul 24, 09, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by MKE-MR
I was already on Kiva but will have to look for the FT team next time I log in. Good initiative!
Just Click on lili's signature: Come join the FlyerTalk team on Kiva!

Statistic Name FlyerTalkers
Number of Team Members 60
Number of Loans 240
Number of Loans per Member 4.00
Total Amount Loaned $6,975.00

Some FTers have not got a travel related photo as an avatar
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Old Aug 7, 09, 3:43 pm
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If you need to top-off a FF account, consider making a loan through the FlyerTalk Kiva Lending Team w/ a miles-earning cc: http://www.kiva.org/community/viewTeam?team_id=1913

I have never had a Kiva loan default and the overall rate of default is very low, so the cost of the miles is the forgone interest on the loaned money.

Kiva FlyerTalkers
Number of Team Members 62
Number of Loans 251
Number of Loans per Member 4.05
Total Amount Loaned $7,300.00

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Old Aug 7, 09, 3:52 pm
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Hi boulderlaw,

While I do agree with the encouraging message, I also think we should not hide the truth.

Overall, the average KIVA user, as per the statistics which are show to me, have a 1.39% default rate.

Now, I will say that this is a very low rate, but I would encourage everyone to pay attention when lending on KIVA to:

- the type of business
- the lending partner involved .. what is their default rate?

It's lending-101 principles, but it does count.



PS = And yes, after 27 loans, of which 15 have been repaid in full, I am still at a 0% default rate
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Old Aug 16, 09, 6:00 pm
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Although Kiva has no political or religious agenda, some of their field lenders do. If there is anyone who prefers to loan only to particular organizations there is a FireFox add on for that.

The filter can act as a black list or a white list and the guy who put it together uses it to maintain a list of field lenders who claim to be christian.

If you prefer to lend based on a different set of criteria, that's fine, but if you prefer to not support a religious agenda or only support Christian lenders that is a choice that should be easier than it currently is.


You do maintain your own list so if you preferred to black list lenders with high default rates or currency issues it can be used for that also.
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Old Aug 16, 09, 9:19 pm
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An update: Since joining Kiva (15 July 2009) I've made 7 loans and a few have been partially repaid already. Today I checked and I have about $23 repaid so I tossed in the other $2 and made my 8th loan.

To anyone who's considering Kiva - it's easy to join, you don't get spam, loans are repaid over time and it's easy to keep the cycle going. ^
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Old Aug 18, 09, 11:54 pm
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Congrats to the Kiva team. I would have joined if I wasn't already invested with Global Partnerships in Seattle. The more microloans the merrier!
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Old Aug 19, 09, 7:29 am
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I joined and made a first loan to some farmer in Togo.

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Old Aug 19, 09, 12:33 pm
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Welcome to the team, Helsinki Flyer!

I think Adjo Akakpo's request was a good one, so I added my bit.

So, fellow FTers, the score is now, at the end of August:

68 Team Members
291 Loans
4.28 Loans per Member (average)
$8,900.00 Total Loaned
*Updated as of Sept 1, 2009 10:02 am

I'm betting $10,000 by Christmas - at least! FlyerTalkers, making a difference! ^

And gj83, thanks for sharing the cool add-on!

(And, yes, I have had one or two loans go into delinquency - I am aware of risk issues and select the kind of business I lend to, the lender, the location, and do know I can decisions that control the loan risk. Thanks for bringing this up, GenevaFlyer.)

Last edited by JDiver; Sep 20, 09 at 2:01 pm Reason: corekt typoe and update figures
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Old Aug 31, 09, 2:30 am
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Just joined myself and made a couple of loans

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Old Sep 1, 09, 12:06 pm
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Welcome, Jeff!

You added to some truly impressive statistics for this year - from Kiwis to Seppos and Euros our team is "growing and loaning" and is really a microcosm of the best FlyerTalk has to offer.

Originally Posted by jswong
Just joined myself and made a couple of loans

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Old Sep 6, 09, 6:31 pm
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Where did everybody go? I haven't been here in awhile. (I got too sucked in to Farm Town on Face Book), but I didn't know that FT has a team on Kiva. Woo-Hoo! I've belonged since early last year, and I'm a big fan. I just moved over to your team. Yea, FT! (I also belong to prosper.com) Jean
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