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#166
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Why? B/C there are a number of folks complaining about current policy? Does that somehow alter the percentages in population as a whole?
Now you're just being silly. Giving blood is a good and valuable thing, and it's a pity more people cannot participate. In the meantime, pouting about not getting your own way shouldn't be part of the program.
O/H
Now you're just being silly. Giving blood is a good and valuable thing, and it's a pity more people cannot participate. In the meantime, pouting about not getting your own way shouldn't be part of the program.
O/H
This is not about getting my own way. This thread is offensive every time it's bumped. Many universities and businesses are withdrawing support from blood drives for the very reason of the discriminatory nature of the deferral policy.
As others have pointed out, getting blood is a profitable and corporate thing. The entire system needs to be overhauled, and until it is, I don't think that FlyerTalk should be supporting it.
BTW, if you still think it's such a small percentage then understand that in 2005, the head of the New England Red Cross stated that "if half of the gay men who have been banned were to give blood, then we'd have no blood shortage."
This is about politics, not an artificial shortage of blood.
Last edited by robb; Sep 4, 2007 at 10:32 am
#167
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Do we have any doctors on the OMNI forum? Please voice up and confirm that modern technology greatly diminishes the value of a blood transfusion. The only force that has kept blood transfusions as a choice is the money it generates. Therefore, it is in the interests of those who make the money to make it sound like a good and valuable thing.
Thousands of educated doctors know that danger a blood transfusion presents:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus
#168
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No it is not a good and valuable thing. Maybe it was 50 years ago, if even then.
Do we have any doctors on the OMNI forum? Please voice up and confirm that modern technology greatly diminishes the value of a blood transfusion. The only force that has kept blood transfusions as a choice is the money it generates. Therefore, it is in the interests of those who make the money to make it sound like a good and valuable thing.
Thousands of educated doctors know that danger a blood transfusion presents:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus
Do we have any doctors on the OMNI forum? Please voice up and confirm that modern technology greatly diminishes the value of a blood transfusion. The only force that has kept blood transfusions as a choice is the money it generates. Therefore, it is in the interests of those who make the money to make it sound like a good and valuable thing.
Thousands of educated doctors know that danger a blood transfusion presents:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus
#169
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Question: do you think there should be *any* deferrals for the possible presence of blood borne pathogens?
O/H
#170
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I never expected this thread to turn into an Omni fight.
I just hope that those of you that think this thread is a waste of time, never need a pint of blood.
Rather than 'fight' on this thread, some of you need to write your Member of Congress or Senator. @:-)
Bring pressure on them to change the law (if this is your opinion).
I just hope that those of you that think this thread is a waste of time, never need a pint of blood.
Rather than 'fight' on this thread, some of you need to write your Member of Congress or Senator. @:-)
Bring pressure on them to change the law (if this is your opinion).
#171
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#172
Join Date: May 2005
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It's behavior that causes STDs and not simply your sexual preference. The current policy speaks less of safety and more of bigotry.
Originally Posted by Occupationalhazard
If we have arrived at a point at which there is no longer for gay men, then I am fine with the removal of the ban. *shrugs*
Giving blood is a good thing and I encourage people to do it. However, when presented with blood drives I prefer to make sure that the people who can donate are reminded of the institutionalized homophobia present in the current system.
#174
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I gave blood again today; it took almost 2 hours; they were so slow; partly due that they were understaffed but also the amount of questions that need to be answered. I probably don't want to go back.
Along with the normal rejections on the form was the UK mad cow part; anyone who lived in the UK from 1/1/1980 to 31/12/1996 is not welcomed and it listed England; Scotland; Wales; Ireland; Channel Islands and Isle Of Man.
The worst part; there was no cheese and biscuits this time.
Along with the normal rejections on the form was the UK mad cow part; anyone who lived in the UK from 1/1/1980 to 31/12/1996 is not welcomed and it listed England; Scotland; Wales; Ireland; Channel Islands and Isle Of Man.
The worst part; there was no cheese and biscuits this time.
#177
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thank you Mr Vker! A dear friend of ours is staying alive because he is receiving at least 3 units of blood a week.
He isn't ready to leave his 9 year old daughter alone in this world.
He isn't ready to leave his 9 year old daughter alone in this world.
#179
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been giving since my 18th birthday and give every 8 weeks (with the blood center "conveniently located" just a block and a half from home)
#180
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My son and our family give thanks regularly to all those who donate blood. If not for them, he would not have made it through the 3 1/2 years of chemotherapy for his leukemia. He is now 1+ year off treatment and doing great.
Thanks again. If you can, please donate regularly. People really do need the blood. I know many of these families.
We give regularly.
Thanks again. If you can, please donate regularly. People really do need the blood. I know many of these families.
We give regularly.