It really is if it ever happens to you.

It happened to me in December MAN-CUN (TUI Not FINNAIR) and I got zero help from the airline or anyone. Fortunately on my return, a helpful manager in MAN allowed me to search for it the lost and found room in Manchester and I found it straight away. I now use airtags in all my cases, and choose hand luggage only where possible.

Interesting changes, some make sense, others really don’t. For me the red flags are:
1. Carryon 8kg hard limit in SH J - really crazy..
2. Heavy bag fee for Plats (really hope 2/3x 23kg can be converted into 1x 23-32kg…)

Increased award/upgrade points, and to certain extent also the copays, I can understand..AY needs cash and get the points balance down also.

I’m not saying I stop flying AY because of this but what I do make sure is to burn as many points as possible now… done with 640k today and more to come, surpised to find J awards to/from SIN, very pleased with those.

Thanks for this tip, SIN rtn redeemed with points: 03FEB-28FEB.
J Cabin empty both ways.

The carry on weight limit is the only thing that I find very stupid. But I believe free seat selection on cheap tickets is going to be a thing of the past with most airlines soon, for example Lufthansa doesn't let you choose a seat at check in anymore with a light ticket.

To reiterate, the limit itself is not new and there is no concrete sign yet that there will be a change in enforcement. There may be, but for now it's the same policy they always had.

Just checked in for a flight to Athens "3 bags up to 32 kg each", thats still there on other airlines. To reduce it on long haul flights in J to one piece of 23KGs is just substandard.

You miss the point, even if you got 26A at check in by the AY, somebody can take your seat until boarding if he pay for 26A or has status - this is what is absolute new in the game. You will be allocated 26A by the airline, but the seat is not secure until "Boarding Completed". You can land on 44E with 26A in such a case, which is a lot of fun with 12 hours to Bangkok. It remains a lottery until the last moment because AY sells everything until the last moment.

Uhh.. I don't know how AY will implement it but that's not how it normally works, inc with airlines with similar policies. Once you check in, your seat is yours barring operational reasons.


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HEL today, KL has a similar thing as Finnair (though it's not a policy, just a full flight)

But this is what they wanna do Quote: No operational reasons, just that guy with his creditcard or status.

To me it looks more like this applies until check in, not boarding

The issue is that Finnair applies this even to "expensive tickets", i.e. Classic fare. No one else does that, even Ryanair has a free seat selection on all fare types except the cheapest one.

Neither am I aware of any airline that charges business class passengers for seat selection at check-​​in.

Exactly, it has to be just poor wording. Currently the theoretical seating algorithm is all the time finding the best suitable seats for everyone. If one passenger checks in and chooses a certain seat, the algorithm re-calculates the optimal seating for all the passengers who at that moment have not yet been assigned a seat.

But once you check in and have a boarding pass, that seat is not going to change except for operational reasons such as plane change. Otherwise it would be a chaos during boarding.

Good point about business class seating going random with light tickets as well. That's not good. Even less reason to book business class.

And to be fair LCCs like Ryanair often charge just a couple of euros for a regular seat whereas Finnair charges much more.

And with Classic tickets as well...

If this is how enforcement is taking place, and they are relying on the answer to be sufficiently accurate to charge based on it, then I think I'd ask them to show me the calibration certificate traceable to national standards, along with the uncertainties. If they can't produce that, they have no idea if the 10kg they've just measured should be 8kg or 12kg. Now the reality is that you'd probably have to pay, but at least then you've raised the objection if you later decide to contest it.

I'm also great fun at parties if anyone wants to book me. Baggage will be charged extra, though.

Sir, no, they ARE innovative and reinventive: they are now not deteriorating but only paving way for NEW innovations by removing old bad!

I have the crystal ball so I am seeing the new innovations:
SPEND OFFERINGS:
-1000pts for getting a smile
-2000pts for getting a plat talk
-3000pts for getting security talk in Finnish (other languages discounted 10%)
-4000pts for leaving you alone (10000pts for finns who really DO want it)
-5000 for fart-allowance in the cage
-6000 for Y pax allowed to run forward cabin toilet
-7000 for J pax to block Y pax running front (see the everlasting moneymaking circle here, clever!)
-9000 for allowing toddlerbumps in seat
-10000 for BK bags instead of compulsory vegemeal in J

If u want to see the complete list, send me 100.000points :D

Since you only get your seat at check in, it must apply after check in. Pure logic, there is no reason to talk about it if there is not a chance to lose your seat after AY gave to you for free.

Since you only know about your assigned seat after check in, for me it sounds that you can loose your seat after check in. If this is poor wording, then I have hope that the whole thing consists of a lot of misunderstanding and poor wording. May the hired PR people from India (no offense here) had their difficulties to understand the briefing by that guy from Poland how works in the marketing department in Helsinki.