ffay005

"Preferred seats" in J, or that's what I suppose as the Finnish version says "suosittu paikka", are already marked on the seat map. The seats are a darker blue and with a dot in the middle. Checked a reservation for next November.

Halti

Found the new ticket types from Google, wanted to share them. I can't post the link as a new user but just google finnair "business classic" and see the first result.

The changes don't seem bad at all at least for a longhaul business traveller, they actually offer possibility for more points as I'll always need a checked luggage and will fly with Business Classic 200% or Flex 250%.

EuroFlash

Here you go: https://fbta.net/wp-content/uploads/...utyypit-QA.pdf

OH-LGG

We are 3 days from new ticket types sale start and nothing official out from AY.

Excellent communication.

Extra Mile

Why outbound I-Class is light 150%, but inbound I-Class is Classic 200%. Probably applies open jaws, not r/t.

Ed Size

Is there an english version of it? Do I see this right 0 luggage if traveling longhaul in business light?

Courmisch

So this restores ValueClassic on flights to Japan, and introduces it to the transatlantic JV. For economy, the changes are positive. But of course, it depends on pricing too.

Courmisch

0 checked-in bags in Light, regardless of cabin.

Finnair has made the ticket types orthogonal to the class of travel: if you look at any given row on the tables, it depends either on the cabin or the type but not both.

The only exceptions are Finnair Plus earnings and bag allowance, but you can still treat them like this:

• Class:
  • 100% and 1+1 pieces for Economy
  • 200% and 2+2 pieces for Business (2xEconomy, except for the higher weight limit)
• Type:
  • -50% for Light, removes the hold allowance
  • +/-0 for Classic
  • +50% for Flex

Ed Size

So I just wonder who gonna buy this business light tickets, specially the leisure traveler going to Asia need luggage - this only fit for business travelers going to Asia for a couple of days or mileage runners.

Courmisch

I would assume that you can buy bag allowance separately. For business sale prices, that would make sense: if the price is the same as in Economy, it'll be small compared to the discount business fare. So I'd say this actually fits decently to the affluent tourists.

And of course, it fits executives on short business trips who won't need held bags.

Business mileage runners are actually the losers here, not because of the bag allowance, but because of the cut in earnings. But it's probably a tiny fraction of the market.

Ed Size

If the prices are lower then today (what I doubt) then this scenario would make sense (and would even attract me). At the moment my average ticket to BKK is somewhere between 1400€ and 1800€. If the ticket price would be max 1400€ with no luggage and 150% points we can talk about it, since I m buying roughly 12 - 16 tickets/pa - if its more in the 1800€ region it would be the same or even higher then competition - but they give double miles/points and luggage.

Steve_Hun

Now that they are BFFs with AA, I really don't see that happening.

kauppias

has this been officially announced by AY?

I just cannot wrap my head around the fact that there is ANYONE AT AY So silly to think THIS IS THE TIME to do such a move!

this has to be my shortest courtship of a FFP 😂😂😂

essentially they cut the benefits and points of the lowest business class because well WE ALL KNOW they are not going to lower the price of the I fares in accordance 😆😂 we saw what happened with light fares in Y....


I was on track to get LUMO completed by summer, then this corona hit and obviously changed things, if this does take effect March 31, I really have to reconsider My options.

to be fair this is NOT the end of the world I will not loose sleep over it but I do have a feeling my days of hunting OW or Star status are limited, free agency is looking more likely for 2023...

so either I book 3 J tix now before 3/31 which isnt financially all that smart 😆😂 or I cancel 2 J tix now booked on AY and get a cash refund 😂😂

boy do I pick the perfect time to join FFPs 😁😁

Antx

I am not sure if this really changes anything for the JVs, as the fare rules table and booking class tables are both excluding the joint ventures. Things certainly could change, but I think there is not enough information to support that at this time.

WilcoRoger

Paid seat selection for Light and Classic business? Why learn the worst from BA?