tulokas

I see this as an opportunity to buy relatively cheap tix for weekend trips (massturism) where it doesn’t really matter when I travel. It should be always possible to postpone the travel if this situation is still going when supposed to travel.

WilcoRoger

OSL-BKK is (was?) 1200€ in J (see the relevant thread in the "Deals"section)

ffay005

The world economy will collapse if they'll keep this lockdown mode on for six months. Very very unlikely to happen.

Superrman

The prices ex-Norway in NOK are not at an unusually low level. Rather, Norway has been a cheap starting point for quite a while with AY. But NOK tanked during the corona/oil crisis and is now even more "pesetas" than the SEK, so expect more good deals if your income is in EUR/USD

Courmisch

6-months long confinement would ruin the world economy, but 6-months travel ban would not. Travel is about 10% of the world GDP, and presumably some of those 10% will be recovered in the year.

So if your plan is to spend weekends in the Schengen area, maybe that'll work. But I think long-distance travel will remain iffy until mass availability of vaccination - especially from/to areas with insufficient health care capacity.

Purjelentaja

Unless in the future Business Light (I) becomes much cheaper and Business Classic (R) will be in the same price level as Business Saver (I) previously, I think I'll be leaning towards other carriers when flying long haul. I'm not ready to pay as much as now for a much less, in terms of points accrual and service.

Antx

Eco flex (YBH) tickets lose free eco comfort / exit seat / legroom seat selection. Business light and classic advanced seat selection will be "for a fee" (and seems like there is differentiation for "preferred seats" also in business). Point upgrade to higher cabin will be "for a fee", whatever it means.

lkrt

I wouldn't read too much into these upgrade details at this point. I find it unlikely that they change the upgrade system in any way before the introduction of PE.

Antx

PE related changes are reported to come in addition to these, later in 2020.

WilcoRoger

If these devaluation of the AY+ programme come true + the pricing of longhaul products get even higher ex-HEL as they are today here's the $64 question: what airline and FFP to go for mainly east-bound longhaul from 2021 onwards? TK? QR? LH group? I am too adicted to go agnostic!

ffay005

While I naturally don't like the points reduction, I don't think it will change the big picture. Golds and Plats are likely to get "preferred" J seats free of charge, service on the ground and in the air remains the same. If you fly QR/BA/whatever, you'll earn 125% whereas with AY Light fares you'll earn 187,5% as a Plat.

My guess is that Light fares will be on the same price level as the cheapest I fares are today. There's no incentive to decrease those prices; it's competition that decides the price level.

However, I also don't believe that many people will actually pay extra for J seat assignments. Those who travel even a few times a year will still receive a free seat assignment whereas those who travel for the first time in their lives don't even care.

FlyeBye

Good question, due to 2 flight cancelations I was rebooked to LH, both flights on the All-Business upper floor of an A380. Wasn't too bad and I have to say, that I miss LH F, the best value for any upgrade voucher or miles especially for a revenue J flyer IMO. LH also just improved M&M quite a bit, so Finnair shouldn't enhance AY+ too much...

r2d2

When China started the lockdown in Wuhan, I believed that none of the Western democracies would do anything similar, but I was so wrong... Now my guess is that most of the countries will stay in lockdown until they have the situation with the virus in control. After they achieve that through hard work and a massive tragedy not seen since WW2, they are not going to ruin the results by opening borders. There will be mandatory quarantines when crossing borders, except between countries that trust each other enough to have the situation under control. Maybe pax who can prove to have achieved immunity are exempt from being quarantined.

Ed Size

Since I need to go to BKK as soon as possible, I can t wait till Sept., but anything before that could be risky since no one knows what the Thai goverment will do in the near future.

Ed Size

Since the LH group has two airlines with a pretty decent F cabin, for me it will be LH. QR is on the way to leave OW as far as I understood so the points can only used with them. And the J cabin is quite a gamble.....

I don t know much of TK though.