Lumo recognition, freebies and soft perks
#226
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: HEL
Programs: AY, SK, TK
Posts: 7,598
#227
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 87
#228
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Usually seat 1A, home:Tallinn
Programs: LH -- HON Circle **, IHG Spire Elite, Hilton Diamond, 1865 Voyager
Posts: 470
So Lumo not even close to LH-Group HON?
By reading all of that... so the AY Lumo is even not close to LH-group HON?
Or there is on AY Lumo program anything like:
My experience on flying AY premium cabins are, that AY do not like premium passengers so much as do most of other carriers. So I am just very curious how they manage to threat their very-very elites?
Or there is on AY Lumo program anything like:
- limo drives from and to aircraft
- personal assistant from airline for everything connected to your air-travel
- special lounges with no access for anyone else (LH/LX grant access also only to their own metal First pax, no alliance F)
- full service restaurant in lounges
- absolute priority over everybody else on waitinglists and service
- direct transfers by limo from plane to plane on short connection
- escort thru security and immigration, on departure also to lounge and to gate ?
My experience on flying AY premium cabins are, that AY do not like premium passengers so much as do most of other carriers. So I am just very curious how they manage to threat their very-very elites?
#229
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,105
1/ (qualified) yes, as no 100% sure
2/ no
3/ no
4/ yes
5/ yes
6/ not written, upthread there is just an exact example of this
7/ no
So not HON level, but definitely above SEN (and common OWE)
2/ no
3/ no
4/ yes
5/ yes
6/ not written, upthread there is just an exact example of this
7/ no
So not HON level, but definitely above SEN (and common OWE)
#230
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,174
In this comparison one must remember Lumo have a segment qualifier, which HON doesnt. So HON is directed at premium cabin customers while Lumo is directed at commuters. So the definition of "elites" differ and thus the perks do too.
#231
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Usually seat 1A, home:Tallinn
Programs: LH -- HON Circle **, IHG Spire Elite, Hilton Diamond, 1865 Voyager
Posts: 470
Limo from/to plane
Frankly speaking I think this whole BMW ride idea is crazy. Who wants to drive front or behind a bus for a few hundred meters? And everybody looking at you wondering who the hell is that guy? Most pax have no idea about this service so they will be confused. I want to try it once but most likely in future will choose the bus, if there is a change to do so.
I must say, that it is one of the most enjoyable* parts of journey for me (former when I was F pax, now as HON) in FRA to be transferred by Porsche (Lufthansa do use now only Porsches for that in FRA and MUC, LX in ZRH, OS in VIE and LO in WAW use different limos) to/from aircraft. It usually done very visible way: bus is waiting until driver carries HON / F pax luggage to plane and bus will open doors only after HON / F is boarded. Or after landing when Porsche is waiting directly next to the staircase to plane.
As far I know, everybody who can have that privilege, enjoy it very much. I think for most Lumo pax it is enjoyable as well.
* disclaimer: LH Hon Circle program makes actually all journey very enjoyable. And nothing can beat Fitrst Class Terminal in FRA
#232
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Usually seat 1A, home:Tallinn
Programs: LH -- HON Circle **, IHG Spire Elite, Hilton Diamond, 1865 Voyager
Posts: 470
for HON counts only First and Business class flights on Miles&More program airlines only. Even Star Alliance do not count at all.
Frankly, by cost of 1 HON mile 0,10 EUR, need to spend 60 000 EUR on flying within 2 years to get HON status.
At another side -- if some qualify in March, then he7she will have status for frankly 3 years.
#233
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,174
HON is 360 000 butt-in-seat km in paid F. Lumo can be 60 000 butt-in-seat km or less in cheapest y.
As such it is excellent value. Proved by the extreme number of segment runners here
As such it is excellent value. Proved by the extreme number of segment runners here
#234
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
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At one time I actively kept LH SEN status (HON? not even on the radar screen, so far away) but once they moved cheap C (P-bucket) earnings down to 100% earnings, I knew my time was up. Probably was a sound business decision from LH, but I flew <10 segments with them (all short-haul) in the last 5 years.
These days it's TK *G I have had for the 3rd (or 4th?) 2-year term running - and I've found that TK flies to places I actually need to go and would be nigh impossible to do on OW (just this year - SGN, OTP, KHE (!))
These days it's TK *G I have had for the 3rd (or 4th?) 2-year term running - and I've found that TK flies to places I actually need to go and would be nigh impossible to do on OW (just this year - SGN, OTP, KHE (!))
#235
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: AY Plat Lumo+LTG, FI Gold, DL Silver, BA, SK, AX Plat, Priority Pass, Marriott Ambassador & others
Posts: 634
At one time I actively kept LH SEN status (HON? not even on the radar screen, so far away) but once they moved cheap C (P-bucket) earnings down to 100% earnings, I knew my time was up. Probably was a sound business decision from LH, but I flew <10 segments with them (all short-haul) in the last 5 years.
These days it's TK *G I have had for the 3rd (or 4th?) 2-year term running - and I've found that TK flies to places I actually need to go and would be nigh impossible to do on OW (just this year - SGN, OTP, KHE (!))
These days it's TK *G I have had for the 3rd (or 4th?) 2-year term running - and I've found that TK flies to places I actually need to go and would be nigh impossible to do on OW (just this year - SGN, OTP, KHE (!))
#236
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, LX SEN, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 467
I must say, that it is one of the most enjoyable* parts of journey for me (former when I was F pax, now as HON) in FRA to be transferred by Porsche (Lufthansa do use now only Porsches for that in FRA and MUC, LX in ZRH, OS in VIE and LO in WAW use different limos) to/from aircraft. It usually done very visible way: bus is waiting until driver carries HON / F pax luggage to plane and bus will open doors only after HON / F is boarded. Or after landing when Porsche is waiting directly next to the staircase to plane.
As far I know, everybody who can have that privilege, enjoy it very much. I think for most Lumo pax it is enjoyable as well.
#240
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: TLL
Programs: AY LUMO (500K+), Marriott Abassador, Hertz President Circle, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 214
is that seat-block kind of automatic? if we are LUMOs, so it should be free seat next to us?