The problematic TLV schedule
Aug 2, 2015, 5:57 am
#16
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I honestly don't understand why AY does have convenient schedules for some (if not all) purely leisure destinations, but fails to have the same to/from TLV which is one of the most important business centers in the Middle East.
Aug 2, 2015, 12:34 pm
#17
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Finnair only has so many planes. As already noted, leisure flights tend to use extra capacity at night. To fly a convenient schedule to/from TLV, Finnair would need one extra plane: like to/from MAD, the plane would fly to TLV during the evening, stay there for the night, and fly back the next morning.
Even if DOH, AUH and DXB are not options due to geopolitics, there are already connections possibilities through IST and SVO. Both are better located. I am not sure how many Israeli residents care about which country the plane will go over when doing the purchase decision.
FWIW, SIN-HEL flies over Afghanistan and Pakistan air spaces...
Even if DOH, AUH and DXB are not options due to geopolitics, there are already connections possibilities through IST and SVO. Both are better located. I am not sure how many Israeli residents care about which country the plane will go over when doing the purchase decision.
FWIW, SIN-HEL flies over Afghanistan and Pakistan air spaces...
Aug 2, 2015, 2:58 pm
#18
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Finnair only has so many planes. As already noted, leisure flights tend to use extra capacity at night. To fly a convenient schedule to/from TLV, Finnair would need one extra plane: like to/from MAD, the plane would fly to TLV during the evening, stay there for the night, and fly back the next morning.
Even if DOH, AUH and DXB are not options due to geopolitics, there are already connections possibilities through IST and SVO. Both are better located. I am not sure how many Israeli residents care about which country the plane will go over when doing the purchase decision.
FWIW, SIN-HEL flies over Afghanistan and Pakistan air spaces...
Even if DOH, AUH and DXB are not options due to geopolitics, there are already connections possibilities through IST and SVO. Both are better located. I am not sure how many Israeli residents care about which country the plane will go over when doing the purchase decision.
FWIW, SIN-HEL flies over Afghanistan and Pakistan air spaces...
Aug 2, 2015, 11:48 pm
#19
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Yes. We are here talking above all of air traffic between Japan/Korea/China and Israel. It would make no sense of flying from TLV to South Asia via HEL.
Some years ago both SK and DY started direct flights to TLV from CPH or ARN, so there is obviously high demand for such connections.
I guess as a business destination TLV is far more important for convenient connecting flights than Biarritz, Split, Dubrovnik etc. together.
Some years ago both SK and DY started direct flights to TLV from CPH or ARN, so there is obviously high demand for such connections.
I guess as a business destination TLV is far more important for convenient connecting flights than Biarritz, Split, Dubrovnik etc. together.
Aug 3, 2015, 3:16 am
#20
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Also great circle routes from IST to East Asia don't go over very hostile territories even from Israeli point of view. Well, IST-NRT goes quite close to Eastern Ukraine but I hope they avoid that area for everybody. IST-BKK goes over Iran but anything more north should be fine unless you count whole central Asia as hostile territory.
Aug 3, 2015, 4:48 am
#21
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An interesting side-note.
In the BA Forum there is an interesting discussion whether one should have a BA or QR frequent flyer programme. The Flying pattern includes a couple of flights per year btw Indonesia and TLV via LHR. So this market exists albeit it might be a small one.
In the BA Forum there is an interesting discussion whether one should have a BA or QR frequent flyer programme. The Flying pattern includes a couple of flights per year btw Indonesia and TLV via LHR. So this market exists albeit it might be a small one.