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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Old Sep 25, 2016, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
My Platinum Challenge is starting in October. I'm doing it by segments and my Platinum 2016-2017 seems to be a cheap version.

Anyone can do/find lower than 16€ per AY segment?
Wow 👍👍👍

Thats a cheap AY Plat! Im impressed

Are you doing just ARN runs or mixing it up
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Old Sep 25, 2016, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Wow 👍👍👍

Are you doing just ARN runs or mixing it up
Let's say PRG and ARN will be well known airports after this.

Of course I cant do Platinum 76*16€ but most of it will be these AY low cost -legs.
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Old Sep 26, 2016, 5:16 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Let's say PRG and ARN will be well known airports after this.

Of course I cant do Platinum 76*16€ but most of it will be these AY low cost -legs.
Heh at that price I would have been in
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Old Sep 26, 2016, 6:17 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Let's say PRG and ARN will be well known airports after this.
Nice. Maybe I should get already a journey for next spring. Not for the airport but the city.
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Old Sep 26, 2016, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
Nice. Maybe I should get already a journey for next spring. Not for the airport but the city.
That is possible too, if we are talking about PRG. I picked flights where immediate return was available, I have no time and nothing to do in PRG city.
Airport is milerunners home!
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 1:45 am
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Anyone here with experience at RIX! Im arriving AY at 1040 and departing 1105 is this the same plane? Doable or is there transit security etc? There is no earlier AY flight so just curious I havent been in RIX in ages
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:05 am
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Anyone here with experience at RIX! Im arriving AY at 1040 and departing 1105 is this the same plane? Doable or is there transit security etc? There is no earlier AY flight so just curious I havent been in RIX in ages
Same plane, easily doable (or was 2-3 yrs ago, haven't been to RIX since)
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:06 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Anyone here with experience at RIX! Im arriving AY at 1040 and departing 1105 is this the same plane? Doable or is there transit security etc? There is no earlier AY flight so just curious I havent been in RIX in ages
IIRC correctly, no transit security and as it is an ATR they either bus or walk you to the terminal. I'm not sure though if they walk you to an arrivals lane instead of just spitting you out to the general gate area.

The RIX lounge is surprisingly good.
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:13 am
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Originally Posted by lkrt
IIRC correctly, no transit security and as it is an ATR they either bus or walk you to the terminal. I'm not sure though if they walk you to an arrivals lane instead of just spitting you out to the general gate area.

The RIX lounge is surprisingly good.
Ouch if its a bus gate 20min is too close the did a schedule change on me so cut a bit short perhaps Ill arrive the night before
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:44 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Anyone here with experience at RIX! Im arriving AY at 1040 and departing 1105 is this the same plane? Doable or is there transit security etc? There is no earlier AY flight so just curious I havent been in RIX in ages
No experience with RIX, but some experience with flightaware...
AY123-AY124 is "always" the same aircraft. No AY124 on weekends but here are the last 2 months flights:

Code:
Date      AY123    Arrival RIX         AY124   Departure RIX
27-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:39 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:13 fm
26-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:27 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:06 fm
23-sep E190 (OH-LKO) Landed 12:48 PM E190 (OH-LKO) 1:37 em
22-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:26 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:05 fm
21-sep AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 10:25 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 10:59 fm
20-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:07 fm
19-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:09 fm
16-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:08 fm
15-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:10 fm
14-sep AT75 (OH-ATI) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATI) 11:18 fm
13-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:27 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:06 fm
12-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:30 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:11 fm
09-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATH) 11:08 fm
08-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:28 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:11 fm
07-sep AT75 (OH-ATI) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATI) 11:11 fm
06-sep AT75 (OH-ATJ) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATJ) 11:15 fm
05-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:24 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:10 fm
02-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:25 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 10:58 fm
01-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:35 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:19 fm
31-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:24 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:01 fm
30-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:41 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:22 fm
29-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:16 fm
26-aug AT75 (OH-ATP) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATP) 11:14 fm
25-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:37 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:19 fm
24-aug AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 11:23 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 12:17 em
23-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 11:08 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:52 fm
22-aug AT75 (OH-ATP) Landed 10:44 AM AT75 (OH-ATP) 11:21 fm
19-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:38 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:23 fm
18-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:39 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:20 fm
17-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:38 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:15 fm
16-aug AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:09 fm
15-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:55 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:36 fm
12-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:34 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:13 fm
11-aug AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:48 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:32 fm
10-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:32 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:07 fm
09-aug AT75 (OH-ATJ) Landed 10:42 AM AT75 (OH-ATJ) 11:28 fm
08-aug AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:29 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:08 fm
05-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:14 fm
04-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:24 fm
03-aug AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 11:08 fm
02-aug AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:53 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:28 fm
01-aug AT75 (OH-ATH) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATH) 11:11 fm

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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
perhaps Ill arrive the night before
Hey man, this is mileage running, no mass tourism.
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 2:59 am
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Originally Posted by intuition
No experience with RIX, but some experience with flightaware...
AY123-AY124 is "always" the same aircraft. No AY124 on weekends but here are the last 2 months flights:

Code:
Date      AY123    Arrival RIX         AY124   Departure RIX
27-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:39 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:13 fm
26-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:27 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:06 fm
23-sep E190 (OH-LKO) Landed 12:48 PM E190 (OH-LKO) 1:37 em
22-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:26 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:05 fm
21-sep AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 10:25 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 10:59 fm
20-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:07 fm
19-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:09 fm
16-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:08 fm
15-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:10 fm
14-sep AT75 (OH-ATI) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATI) 11:18 fm
13-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:27 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:06 fm
12-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:30 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:11 fm
09-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Unknown AT75 (OH-ATH) 11:08 fm
08-sep AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:28 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:11 fm
07-sep AT75 (OH-ATI) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATI) 11:11 fm
06-sep AT75 (OH-ATJ) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATJ) 11:15 fm
05-sep AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:24 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:10 fm
02-sep AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:25 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 10:58 fm
01-sep AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:35 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:19 fm
31-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:24 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:01 fm
30-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:41 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:22 fm
29-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:16 fm
26-aug AT75 (OH-ATP) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATP) 11:14 fm
25-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:37 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:19 fm
24-aug AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 11:23 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 12:17 em
23-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 11:08 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:52 fm
22-aug AT75 (OH-ATP) Landed 10:44 AM AT75 (OH-ATP) 11:21 fm
19-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:38 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:23 fm
18-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:39 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:20 fm
17-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:38 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:15 fm
16-aug AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:09 fm
15-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:55 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:36 fm
12-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:34 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:13 fm
11-aug AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:48 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:32 fm
10-aug AT75 (OH-ATO) Landed 10:32 AM AT75 (OH-ATO) 11:07 fm
09-aug AT75 (OH-ATJ) Landed 10:42 AM AT75 (OH-ATJ) 11:28 fm
08-aug AT75 (OH-ATG) Landed 10:29 AM AT75 (OH-ATG) 11:08 fm
05-aug AT75 (OH-ATM) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATM) 11:14 fm
04-aug AT75 (OH-ATN) Landed 10:40 AM AT75 (OH-ATN) 11:24 fm
03-aug AT75 (OH-ATF) Landed 10:33 AM AT75 (OH-ATF) 11:08 fm
02-aug AT75 (OH-ATK) Landed 10:53 AM AT75 (OH-ATK) 11:28 fm
01-aug AT75 (OH-ATH) Landed 10:31 AM AT75 (OH-ATH) 11:11 fm

Thanks
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Hey man, this is mileage running, no mass tourism.
indeed well AY changed me to the later flight at no charge so i can fly without a hurry

Now I am fighting with baec they refuse to ticket a HEL-RIX flight with avios as its NOT a Finnair flight they claim ONLY Finnair and FLYBE flights are eligible

They are 100% sure of this even the supervisor and manager know this basic stuff
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by kauppias
Anyone here with experience at RIX! Im arriving AY at 1040 and departing 1105 is this the same plane? Doable or is there transit security etc? There is no earlier AY flight so just curious I havent been in RIX in ages
I've done that few times. First time plane was on time, walk from the ATR to the terminal and then 100 meters to a gate or so, plenty of time.
But once flight was about 2 hours late (weather, delayed incoming passengers including me, and slot restrictions), then we had remote parking at RIX so had to take a bus. When I arrived to the terminal they were announcing my name and that port is closing, I barely made it and all other passengers were already in the bus. So there is always a risk when there is A: a bus B: a "gate" that can be closed before even any passengers are in the plane.
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Old Sep 27, 2016, 11:12 am
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... they claim ONLY Finnair and FLYBE flights are eligible
What are they smoking? It has been NoRRA for ages now.
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