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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by lwildernorva
maybe his contacts aren't what they once were
Another possibility is that he feels beholden to them. Which would of course be just as useless from his readers' point of view.
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH
Another possibility is that he feels beholden to them. Which would of course be just as useless from his readers' point of view.
Yep. Definitely as good an explanation. I quit regularly reading FTG, The Points Guy, and OMAAT some time ago. It's beginning to look as if VFTW is the next to drop off my list.
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Old Oct 24, 2014 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
That's some seriously convoluted logic!

They happen to KNOW you want to pay more for the same product, so they are accommodating you, not ripping you off!
I, for one, welcome our new price-gouging overlords!
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by lwildernorva
And his strange silence on what could be the biggest story of the week involving a program that he's had contacts with, the likely announcement of the date for the merger of the AA and US FF programs as well as the parameters of that program, is making me think maybe his contacts aren't what they once were.
If he has information which is embargoed then sharing now would be a great way to ruin that relationship. And I would be rather surprised if AA purposefully started leaking out bits to some sources and not others without a proper embargo in place on an issue this large.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by lwildernorva
I was wondering if that post was advance PR for the way he has been told it will be or lobbying on his behalf to keep the stickers in the combined program.

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I, for one, welcome our new price-gouging overlords!
ROFLMAO, yes. That is EXACTLY what that post amounted to!
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 2:51 pm
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I'm not going to defend Gary. We're not friends. His post on discriminatory price offering is indeed absurd.

But for low-level elites like me, he's dead flat right that "free" upgrades would be a disaster: sure, they'd be free; it's just that I could never get one. Price controls produce scarcity, a subject on which I happen to be (through experience behind the Iron Curtain) a self-appointed expert. And before you say it, yes, I know prices are already de facto controlled and that there's consequently already scarcity; making upgrades free to all would just exacerbate the situation.

As for the merged FF program, I'll agree with the prior surmise that Gary's simply embargoed.
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by FallenPlat
I'm not going to defend Gary. We're not friends. His post on discriminatory price offering is indeed absurd.

But for low-level elites like me, he's dead flat right that "free" upgrades would be a disaster: sure, they'd be free; it's just that I could never get one. Price controls produce scarcity, a subject on which I happen to be (through experience behind the Iron Curtain) a self-appointed expert. And before you say it, yes, I know prices are already de facto controlled and that there's consequently already scarcity; making upgrades free to all would just exacerbate the situation.

As for the merged FF program, I'll agree with the prior surmise that Gary's simply embargoed.
I personally prefer stickers over unlimited free upgrades too, because I like to buy premium tickets, sometimes at the last minute. And there is nothing worse than not being able to find space on a flight to BUY 2 premium tickets on a flight because the premium cabin is full of upgraders. And, for the same reason, I like it when a premium cabin is not packed to the gills from time to time.

So I don't have an issue with Gary's position. In fact, I think it would be awesome if AA changed its policy so that ExPlats had to use stickers too!!!! @:-)@:-)@:-)@:-) (I seriously doubt Gary would agree with THAT!).
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Old Oct 25, 2014 | 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
If he has information which is embargoed then sharing now would be a great way to ruin that relationship. And I would be rather surprised if AA purposefully started leaking out bits to some sources and not others without a proper embargo in place on an issue this large.
A reasonable explanation. But not even a link to the FT thread on the issue--which he's done on other topics. And no unfounded speculation--which he's also done (hello BA!). And in regards to stickers, I have no dog in that hunt. But his post didn't indicate this idea was bad for some frequent flyers. Although it is clear that it would be bad for the kind of frequent flyer he is.
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by sbm12
If he has information which is embargoed then sharing now would be a great way to ruin that relationship.
Of course. But why would an independent blogger accept advance information with an embargo?

I could understand why if it were just a matter of hours, maybe up to 30 or so. Time to analyse, to compare what's coming with past T&C and other FFPs, and to prepare a detailed and thoughtful post for the moment the news is released. I can't understand, on the other hand, why someone would allow himself to be manoeuvred into a position where -- for several days -- he cannot speculate or report on speculation taking place elsewhere.
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 3:13 pm
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Limit those elite upgrades--but not TOO much.

Seriously, does the left hand know what the right hand is doing?
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 3:48 pm
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Originally Posted by IMH
Of course. But why would an independent blogger accept advance information with an embargo?
I do it all the time. Rarely for days versus hours and never for weeks, but in order to provide what I believe is the best analysis and content for my readers I accept embargoed stories in many circumstances.

Or, more likely, the company is actually being smart about how they handle this announcement and not leaking anything anywhere. Quite similar to how they managed the new livery announcement. AA is pretty good at not leaking info if they don't want it out there.

ETA: As for why not link to a thread on random unfounded speculation on FlyerTalk, I can think of a few reasons.

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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by lwildernorva
Limit those elite upgrades--but not TOO much.

Seriously, does the left hand know what the right hand is doing?
Remember, his position wrt AA as an execplat is 'limit upgrades for thee, but not for me.'@:-)


Anyway, as I said in his comments:

IME, AC typically has cheaper business class tickets from DC to Asia than any other carrier. So I buy them whether I am using my own or my employer's money. So their strategy is working on me!

Selfishly, having gone airline agnostic, I hope that's the future of flying: fewer upgraders and more 'reasonably' priced business class fares.
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 8:26 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz
Remember, his position wrt AA as an execplat is 'limit upgrades for thee, but not for me.'@:-)


Anyway, as I said in his comments:

IME, AC typically has cheaper business class tickets from DC to Asia than any other carrier. So I buy them whether I am using my own or my employer's money. So their strategy is working on me!

Selfishly, having gone airline agnostic, I hope that's the future of flying: fewer upgraders and more 'reasonably' priced business class fares.
Not according to Gary's argument. Because somewhere in there, he'll figure out how to talk about airlines making money on the margins. And he always seems to be right there in that self-defined margin. A fine economic theory that he seems to think means "give me what I want, because you'll make money on it."
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Old Oct 26, 2014 | 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by lwildernorva
Not according to Gary's argument. Because somewhere in there, he'll figure out how to talk about airlines making money on the margins. And he always seems to be right there in that self-defined margin. A fine economic theory that he seems to think means "give me what I want, because you'll make money on it."
Well sure! He wants to always be in unlimited premium cabins on economy fares based on precisely his travel pattern.

Isn't that the dream!?

I know that's what United gave me for about a decade and change. Especially back when they had paper SWUs that my angels at the ORD 1k room never collected!!! @:-)

Then they wised up. JERKS!
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Old Oct 28, 2014 | 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by FallenPlat
As for the merged FF program, I'll agree with the prior surmise that Gary's simply embargoed.
CrankyFlier got a sneak peak but was embargoed:

http://crankyflier.com/2014/10/28/co...r-todays-post/

Will be interesting to see which other bloggers are on the "get to know in advance" list.
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