Temporary Partial Airspace Closure
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Not to fall into OMNI, but the aviation landscape at DXB seems highly unpredictable.
I for one would be quite surprised if suddenly landing at DWC and then needing going onwards to DXB to catch a connecting flight. Folks need to be aware that the ghost of extra expenditure lurks nowadays everywhere and travel insurances do not cover "War".
I for one would be quite surprised if suddenly landing at DWC and then needing going onwards to DXB to catch a connecting flight. Folks need to be aware that the ghost of extra expenditure lurks nowadays everywhere and travel insurances do not cover "War".
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In-flight catering as normal -- caviar, Dom, and some amazing wines (depending on route -- Amuse Bouche 2021, Leoville Poyferre 2005 on MXP-DXB F yesterday)
Lounges in A/C halls are a bit crowded at the moment -- some sections are roped off / closed in the B lounge, but the F&B is as normal.
Lounges in A/C halls are a bit crowded at the moment -- some sections are roped off / closed in the B lounge, but the F&B is as normal.
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Were you in premium economy originally with a rescheduled flight that doesn't have premium and bumped down to economy?
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Another incident
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/fir...ed-no-injuries
Flights at Dubai International Airport have been temporarily suspended after a drone-related incident impacted a fuel tank near the travel hub and caused a fire.
https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/fir...ed-no-injuries
Flights at Dubai International Airport have been temporarily suspended after a drone-related incident impacted a fuel tank near the travel hub and caused a fire.
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Ive been tracking this as well. EK48 (FRADXB) has turned back, but it looks like its now about to land in Athens instead of Frankfurt.
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Emirates tell is that the safety and well-being of its passengers is their highest priority.
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
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If it were as you say then yes, all or no flights would be operated rather than ~ 20% of them, so it's not so simplistic.
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Emirates tell is that the safety and well-being of its passengers is their highest priority.
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
The way I see it, currently flying into / out of Dubai is safe at times, similar to how flying out of HKG is sometimes unsafe because there is a typhoon going on, or there is snow at AMS/ATL/etc. All instances can down a plane if proper safety precautions are not taken. It's not as black and white as "either the airport should be open or it should not be". I would much rather a flight not attempt to land in DXB while the situation is not clear, or land at an airport with limited EK support.
I expect this conversation to be discussed ad nauseum as EK re-opens/re-closes while this mess is going on and many confusing messages that change by the minute, but I personally think I prefer this kind of discussion to the flip side, where EK closes up shop for weeks/months on end and is then targeted for "of course they can afford to, they don't need to run a (profitable) business because the government will bail them out". They really can't win in any situation.
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Emirates tell is that the safety and well-being of its passengers is their highest priority.
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
No, it isn't. Making money is.
If flying into and out of Dubai is safe, then all flights should be operating.
If flying into and out of Dubai is unsafe, then no flights should be operating.
But we have a half-way house situation where some flights are operating between drone attacks.
It takes just one drone to hit a plane and then what?
"Oh sorry", say Emirates. "We never though a drone fired at the airport would hit a plane".
The Emirates want to sell themselves as a trading port, a part of the "silk route" so that they have an alternative to an oil based economy that they know will run out sometime in the foreseeable future.
What Iran is doing with their attacks is severely damaging the premise that the Emirates is a safe, friendly place for trade, travel and commercial activity. Reminding the world that terror is just next door will damage/ruin all they have done to promote this change in image of the Gulf, which is why they have supported removing Iran as a potential nuclear power and exporter of terrorism.
Thus the Emirates want to show that "business" will go on despite the "crazy neighbors" , and that the region is resilient just like Israel is in the face of Iran's threats.
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For our business, we have strictly no middle east travel under any circumstances at the moment and it is expected to stay like that for a while. I expect the same would apply to many corporate travel policies at the moment, the stop and go between drone attacks approach is hardly helping matters. That kind of of revenue loss is going to make a dent in EK and middle east carrier profitability for some time surely.
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A couple of screenshots from this morning. This includes EK32 diverting to AUH:


It appears that AUH wasn't affected by this. I have to say, at the moment, I feel slightly less nervous at the thought of flying to AUH than DXB, for geographical reasons.


It appears that AUH wasn't affected by this. I have to say, at the moment, I feel slightly less nervous at the thought of flying to AUH than DXB, for geographical reasons.
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