Emirates New Routes and Changes 2023
Jun 10, 2023, 9:23 am
#91
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Question about particular aircraft for a route:
Looking at EK338 (CEB-CRK-DXB) in FEB -24, and it is listed on Google flights as 777.
Expert flyer is showing this flight with Business class and Coach only.
But Aerolopa doesn’t show any EK 777-300 configurations without First class.
Is Expert flyer accurate? Or does this flight have a First class section?
Looking at EK338 (CEB-CRK-DXB) in FEB -24, and it is listed on Google flights as 777.
Expert flyer is showing this flight with Business class and Coach only.
But Aerolopa doesn’t show any EK 777-300 configurations without First class.
Is Expert flyer accurate? Or does this flight have a First class section?
Jun 10, 2023, 12:23 pm
#92
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Question about particular aircraft for a route:
Looking at EK338 (CEB-CRK-DXB) in FEB -24, and it is listed on Google flights as 777.
Expert flyer is showing this flight with Business class and Coach only.
But Aerolopa doesn’t show any EK 777-300 configurations without First class.
Is Expert flyer accurate? Or does this flight have a First class section?
Looking at EK338 (CEB-CRK-DXB) in FEB -24, and it is listed on Google flights as 777.
Expert flyer is showing this flight with Business class and Coach only.
But Aerolopa doesn’t show any EK 777-300 configurations without First class.
Is Expert flyer accurate? Or does this flight have a First class section?
Jun 10, 2023, 12:57 pm
#93
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Emirates starts YUL with daily flights as of July 5th, 2023.
EK243 DXB0230 - 0800YUL
EK244 YUL1020 - 0630+1DXB
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...treal-in-july/
EK243 DXB0230 - 0800YUL
EK244 YUL1020 - 0630+1DXB
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...treal-in-july/
Jun 10, 2023, 5:41 pm
#94
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A 1900 departure from YUL would probably only arrive at 1500 in DXB which is only suitable for O&D pax which is a low proportion of traffic from NA destinations.
Pax convenience taking a back seat to how the route fits into the overall fleet scheduling here.
Jun 11, 2023, 8:38 pm
#96
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These flights seem to be scheduled to fit into the peak morning and night connection waves - I expect the identified major market is Indian subcontinent which would require these sorts of arrival times (which also factor in a/c on stand and turn around time of about 2hr).
A 1900 departure from YUL would probably only arrive at 1500 in DXB which is only suitable for O&D pax which is a low proportion of traffic from NA destinations.
Pax convenience taking a back seat to how the route fits into the overall fleet scheduling here.
A 1900 departure from YUL would probably only arrive at 1500 in DXB which is only suitable for O&D pax which is a low proportion of traffic from NA destinations.
Pax convenience taking a back seat to how the route fits into the overall fleet scheduling here.
They will find a way to adjusted the flight schedule later in the future. Hopefully they will change the schedule.
Jun 11, 2023, 10:03 pm
#97
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I don’t know what ground costs for YUL are like but I wonder also if EK doesn’t want to pay for 6+ hrs on the ground at YUL especially if they think pax profile is 95%+ non-Gulf connecting (i.e. lower margin).
Jun 12, 2023, 3:15 pm
#98
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The winter schedule is still being finalized so the following changes are still highly subject to change:
EK011 LGW downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 1
EK021 MAN downgraded to the 77W, from Jul 1 to Sept 30
EK205 MXP/JFK downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 1
EK372 BKK downgraded to the 77W, from Oct 1 to Nov 30
EK761 JNB downgraded to the 77W, effective Aug 1
More changes to follow in the coming weeks.
EK011 LGW downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 1
EK021 MAN downgraded to the 77W, from Jul 1 to Sept 30
EK205 MXP/JFK downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 1
EK372 BKK downgraded to the 77W, from Oct 1 to Nov 30
EK761 JNB downgraded to the 77W, effective Aug 1
More changes to follow in the coming weeks.
Jun 13, 2023, 8:04 am
#99
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Nothing is impossible though......
Jun 13, 2023, 8:13 pm
#100
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Some more changes loaded:
EK077 NCE downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
EK304 PVG upgraded to the 380, effective Oct 29
EK352 SIN downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
Correct. It was previously loaded as a change from October 1st, but changed in the last few days. Evidence that the schedule is still very volatile.
Just my opinion, but I'd be hesitant to make any booking decisions based on the aircraft at this stage. We should have a clearer picture by early July.
EK077 NCE downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
EK304 PVG upgraded to the 380, effective Oct 29
EK352 SIN downgraded to the 77W, effective Oct 29
Just my opinion, but I'd be hesitant to make any booking decisions based on the aircraft at this stage. We should have a clearer picture by early July.
Jun 20, 2023, 2:39 pm
#102
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As has been said, these flights are timed perfectly for connections through DXB. But to add to that, YUL is also slot limited in the evening hours, as traffic is increasing a lot and there simply aren't enough gates at the airport. So it would have been difficult for EK to secure slots in the evening out of YUL.
Jun 21, 2023, 7:41 pm
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As has been said, these flights are timed perfectly for connections through DXB. But to add to that, YUL is also slot limited in the evening hours, as traffic is increasing a lot and there simply aren't enough gates at the airport. So it would have been difficult for EK to secure slots in the evening out of YUL.
Jun 25, 2023, 8:39 am
#104
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ATH-EWR (and presumably the DXB-ATH) is today on the game changer 777. Pleasantly surprised as I boarded, I asked FA if this was an equipment swap but they said this should be it moving forward. It was the old 777 last week EWR-ATH.