UK apparently bans EK shower spa attendants
Nov 6, 2019, 2:07 am
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Primarily it's wiping down the shower so that it's dry, and making sure the floor is clean and dry and arranging the amenities. Of course some pax are pigs and make a massive mess. And who do you think cleans the toilets on the 77Ws?
Nov 6, 2019, 6:01 am
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This is much more about immigration policy. The attendants are not trained or licensed and thus not flight crew, eligible for admission as such.
Very much doubt that the showers are shut down. Would cause significant brand damage. It will simply mean additional crew as it does now. That has longer range retention issues as it certainly is the least desireable onboard position.
Very much doubt that the showers are shut down. Would cause significant brand damage. It will simply mean additional crew as it does now. That has longer range retention issues as it certainly is the least desireable onboard position.
Nov 6, 2019, 6:28 am
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This sounds like an issue stirred up by the lacklustre carrier(s) native to the UK. If you can't compete with EK, try to bring them down. A shameful tactic. The shower attendants taking care of the spas up front are doing a fantastic job. When it comes down to it, it's really what separates EK from the rest.
Last edited by ZeeDoktor; Nov 6, 2019 at 9:02 am
Nov 6, 2019, 8:58 am
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Nov 6, 2019, 8:59 am
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This sounds like an issue stirred up by the lacklustre carrier(s) native to the UK. If you can't compete with EK, try to bring them down. A shameful tactic. The girls taking care of the spa's up front are doing a fantastic job. When it comes down to it, it's really what separates EK from the rest.
Nov 6, 2019, 9:07 am
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None of the US3 plus BA have even a hunch of what first class service is. I've given them all a try. EK, QR, ET, SQ, AN, JL (in no particular order) are the only airlines I'm going back flying F. For the truly long haul ones, the showers are really quite wonderful and make up for where they fall short of the others (e.g. special meal requests).
Nov 6, 2019, 9:30 am
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None of the US3 plus BA have even a hunch of what first class service is. I've given them all a try. EK, QR, ET, SQ, AN, JL (in no particular order) are the only airlines I'm going back flying F. For the truly long haul ones, the showers are really quite wonderful and make up for where they fall short of the others (e.g. special meal requests).
Nov 7, 2019, 1:18 am
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If wiki stands correct, UK immigration has been always required a company certificate to grant crew visa for entry purpose, I am wondering if EK provides the certificate but the shower attendant has not been recoeved any proper training?
Since FAA also requires similar certificate for crew visa, it also makes me wonder how EK do with their shower attendant when they flying there
Since FAA also requires similar certificate for crew visa, it also makes me wonder how EK do with their shower attendant when they flying there
Nov 13, 2019, 11:58 am
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I have seen these crew members on the US flights. As mentioned, they wear the apron and not only do the lavatories, but also help with cabin services (meals, trash, etc.). It is an interesting cost-saving technique. Not so unusual for cruise ships, but not something I had seen for in-flight operations otherwise.
I suspect the FAA has not understood this staff to be different in training than normal crew members. Perhaps this will change with the UK observations.
I suspect the FAA has not understood this staff to be different in training than normal crew members. Perhaps this will change with the UK observations.
Nov 13, 2019, 12:40 pm
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I have seen these crew members on the US flights. As mentioned, they wear the apron and not only do the lavatories, but also help with cabin services (meals, trash, etc.). It is an interesting cost-saving technique. Not so unusual for cruise ships, but not something I had seen for in-flight operations otherwise.
I suspect the FAA has not understood this staff to be different in training than normal crew members. Perhaps this will change with the UK observations.
I suspect the FAA has not understood this staff to be different in training than normal crew members. Perhaps this will change with the UK observations.