Flying over Iraq

Old Feb 28, 18, 1:55 am
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Hi guys,
I recently noticed that they started flying over Iraq (when flying from Europe to UAE) instead Iran again. I am a bit of a nervous flyer so I'm concerned about it. Do you think it is safe? Thank you.
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Old Feb 28, 18, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by Nervousflyer18 View Post
Hi guys,
I recently noticed that they started flying over Iraq (when flying from Europe to UAE) instead Iran again. I am a bit of a nervous flyer so I'm concerned about it. Do you think it is safe? Thank you.
Yes, why are you concerned by it? IS is pretty much defeated in Iraq anyway

EK have a very good group security department and plan their routes carefully, they wouldn't choose a route where there is danger. Also northern Iraq/Kurdistan has generally been very stable over the years and EK flies to Erbil (or has, not sure if they currently do as there was some intermittent insurgency with IS I believe)
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Old Feb 28, 18, 2:00 am
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You have nothing to worry about. Although if there is an emergency on board I wonder if they would land in somewhere like Najaf or Tikrit.

Emirates runs commercial flights to many of the hotspots in the region, they know what they're doing
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Old Feb 28, 18, 2:18 am
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You have nothing to worry about. Although if there is an emergency on board I wonder if they would land in somewhere like Najaf or Tikrit.

Emirates runs commercial flights to many of the hotspots in the region, they know what they're doing
They'd have pre-defined and authorized diversion points and from FL330 or above would most likely make it across the Iraqi border in an emergency, as they'd need some space to descend anyway, Erbil and Tehran are pretty safe places to land, relatively speaking.
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Old Feb 28, 18, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter View Post
Yes, why are you concerned by it?
Name checks out.
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Old Feb 28, 18, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by extramileage View Post
Name checks out.
Not why nervous flyer in general, I understand that some people just are, I meant what aspect of overflying Iraq is concerning, the prospect of a Ukraine MH type missile strike, the prospect of forced landing in enemy territory/lack of diversion points, ...? Depending on what it is we might be able to provide more precise reasons why there is no risk (or little risk)
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Old Feb 28, 18, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter View Post
Yes, why are you concerned by it? IS is pretty much defeated in Iraq anyway

EK have a very good group security department and plan their routes carefully, they wouldn't choose a route where there is danger. Also northern Iraq/Kurdistan has generally been very stable over the years and EK flies to Erbil (or has, not sure if they currently do as there was some intermittent insurgency with IS I believe)
FWIW, look at the OP's name and admonition. If he did not state his "condition", I would dismiss this "concern" as trolling.

Flying EK (or any other IATA member) is certainly safer than driving on the 311 thru Dubai. Just my bias showing ...
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Old Mar 1, 18, 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by tmac100 View Post
... If he did not state his "condition", I would dismiss this "concern" as trolling.

Flying EK (or any other IATA member) is certainly safer than driving on the 311 thru Dubai. Just my bias showing ...
It may be safer than driving on the 311, but did anyone ask the question of airlines flying over the Ukraine before MH17?

I think asking questions about flight paths is legitimate and far from trolling.
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Old Mar 1, 18, 1:36 pm
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EK has probably assessed the cost of a hull loss along with the cost of pax & crew compensation and image damage, before taking such decision.
EK is still avoiding Syrian airspace. Isn't it ?
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Old Mar 4, 18, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter View Post
EK flies to Erbil (or has, not sure if they currently do as there was some intermittent insurgency with IS I believe)
EK hasn't flown to Erbil for 3 years now AFAIK.
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Old Mar 4, 18, 3:26 am
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Originally Posted by simons1 View Post
EK hasn't flown to Erbil for 3 years now AFAIK.
​​​​​​That long? I know they stopped but am sure I was still looking at fares less than 3yrs ago ... Time flies.
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Old Mar 4, 18, 7:26 am
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When you look at Flightradar24, you will notice a steady stream of aircraft, EK, QR, EY mainly flying in a line over Iraq. Clearly this is now considered safe by many airlines. They all go towards the NE corner of Syria and then turn towards (mainly) European destinations.
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF View Post
It may be safer than driving on the 311, but did anyone ask the question of airlines flying over the Ukraine before MH17?

I think asking questions about flight paths is legitimate and far from trolling.
Yes, one never knows. Also along your frame of thought/reference, I wonder if anyone asks about flight paths AND pilot's condition before boarding. I refer specifically to Germanwings flight 9525 on 24 March 2015. And that was over France!
So much for asking questions. Flying is still safer than driving anywhere.
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Old Mar 5, 18, 11:12 am
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it is weird. I've noticed the same thing recently, including QR flights. QR seemed to only use Iraq for AMM flights with the Saudi air space block. But do seem to see majority of flights bypassing all Iraq. Wonder what differences are decided on to use Iraq airspace or not?
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Old Jan 3, 20, 10:30 am
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Since the US strikes on Sunday and now on Friday I wonder when the airspace will be avoided? There is a steady stream of EK, QR, BA, AF aircraft flying across the west of the country as of now, but is this deemed safe if there is an escalating situation?

Has an advisory or NOTAM been issed to airlines on impeeding military activities and therefore the path should be avoided? Any no fly airspace, or FL advisories out there?
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