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m3red Dec 30, 2016 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681774)
While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see

I do not think they do this that often as they'd rather bump Y pax than j and get as many paid j fares as possible.

skywardhunter Dec 31, 2016 1:22 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 27683291)
I do not think they do this that often as they'd rather bump Y pax than j and get as many paid j fares as possible.

Actually they do, I've seen it with actual loads. Especially ex EU cost of IDB is higher than the margin on an extra J fare.

ID90_J Dec 31, 2016 3:02 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27682034)
Upgrade pre-check-in is impossible to tell, even if J is open. At check-in on space-available basis always an option

Hi! I'm heading to LIS in a couple hours. Any chance you could do a last minute check for me?

If it doesn't work out, I'll go via London on TAP.

skywardhunter Dec 31, 2016 3:17 am


Originally Posted by j_r_m (Post 27683837)
Hi! I'm heading to LIS in a couple hours. Any chance you could do a last minute check for me?

If it doesn't work out, I'll go via London on TAP.

Hey, sorry I don't have direct access myself and just sat down in cinema to watch Assassin's Creed, good luck! Let us know how it turns out

gorbatzjov Dec 31, 2016 5:07 am

How was your experience? The movie I mean, not the flight :)

skywardhunter Dec 31, 2016 6:16 am


Originally Posted by gorbatzjov (Post 27683997)
How was your experience? The movie I mean, not the flight :)

Meh. It's not amazing but it's entertaining. Bit of a rushed and anticlimactic ending.

m3red Dec 31, 2016 7:03 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27684111)
Meh. It's not amazing but it's entertaining. Bit of a rushed and anticlimactic ending.

Like this thread.

skywardhunter Dec 31, 2016 7:07 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 27684210)
Like this thread.

Wait for it...

justatourist Dec 31, 2016 7:24 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27684220)
Wait for it...

Oh yes, because if OP goes via London he might have a really hard time because of the fog :cool:

To OP: why go via London when you can go via Madrid, Brussels or Paris?

FlyerRed5 Dec 31, 2016 8:24 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681474)
Given current load if there are no no-shows there would be some J-F op-ups as well to accommodate just the revenue pax in Y, so they'd need to double-op-up (Y-J and separately J-F) to accommodate a non-rev, which seems unlikely to me.

Correct!

ID90_J Jan 1, 2017 1:29 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27683858)
Let us know how it turns out

I got on :)

I arrived at check-in just as they were closing, and by some miracle there were still three empty seats. I took one of them. Just to remind everyone Y cabin was 22 seats oversold just yesterday.

J was now full, but they kept F completely empty. So not sure what happened behind the scenes (too much Super Bock the night before, perhaps?) but it worked out nicely for me.

Interestingly I spoke to an off-duty EK cabin crew, who was on standby just in front of me, and they mentioned that they never Op-up pax from J-F.

AS FOR THE TRIP REVIEW! this was the first time I've flown EK Economy Class (or any class of travel) for three years.

On boarding, I felt the crew were not particularly welcoming, compared to my experience with other Gulf carriers, and they seemed to be a bit all-over-the-place.

However, I did end up having a short conversation with two of the crew, and found them to be very nice on a 1-to-1 level.

I'm not a fan of the EK uniforms - specifically the male uniform. Seems a bit off-duty office worker to me.

The seat on this 777 was narrow, but acceptable considering the lady next to me was slender and didn't even seem to want the arm rest! I was on the aisle near the front of the cabin.

The food was very good. I think they were possibly rolling out a new meal service, as when I ordered my post-take off G&T, the FA suggested I take a double, as the meal service trolly wouldn't contain any spirits. Good suggestion! Shame there was no lemon slice though.

The white wine was in a glass bottle, which seemed odd in an age of cost cutting and weight reduction.

We rang in new year somewhere over Bahrain - the cabin crew wished us HNY in all of their various spoken languages. A nice touch, but sadly no champagne was passed round.

Landed in DXB around 1.15am, and had a horrible long bus journey back to the terminal.

I won't bore you with the rest. Overall, a good experience on EK! And renewed optimism for travelling stand-by!

ID90_J Jan 1, 2017 1:30 am


Originally Posted by justatourist (Post 27684273)
Oh yes, because if OP goes via London he might have a really hard time because of the fog :cool:

To OP: why go via London when you can go via Madrid, Brussels or Paris?

My destination is the UAE. London had a lot of capacity on this day so was my best bet, and there are many flights from LIS to LHR.

ID90_J Jan 1, 2017 1:32 am


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 27684210)
Like this thread.

:p well at least there was a happy ending.

Thanks to all that helped in this thread. Specifically @skywardhunter and @eternaltransit^

skywardhunter Jan 1, 2017 1:53 am


Originally Posted by j_r_m (Post 27687142)
Interestingly I spoke to an off-duty EK cabin crew, who was on standby just in front of me, and they mentioned that they never Op-up pax from J-F.

Not true, it does happen, but I think they'd be reluctant to do it to accommodate a Y pax in J, however if J were oversold they would, in fact I had a J-F op-up earlier this year.


Originally Posted by j_r_m (Post 27687142)
The food was very good. I think they were possibly rolling out a new meal service, as when I ordered my post-take off G&T, the FA suggested I take a double, as the meal service trolly wouldn't contain any spirits. Good suggestion! Shame there was no lemon slice though.

The white wine was in a glass bottle, which seemed odd in an age of cost cutting and weight reduction.

The food trolley generally doesn't contain drinks IIRC, and what would the wine be served in if not a glass bottle? A box? :D

Glad you made it, and got an aisle, too which is nice! Bad luck with the bus gate, these days they're not as common as they were a few years ago still. As for the crew, that seems to be more and more the case (not very friendly/welcoming) based on recent reports.

m3red Jan 1, 2017 2:09 am

They do upgrade j to F but only if they have to.


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