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ID90_J Dec 30, 2016 4:31 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27679928)
class capacity booked
Y 310 334
J 42 20
F 8 0

5 staff listed in Y

Ow. Ow. Ow.

Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.

But I'm not sure they do this.

Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.

Anyone want to place a bet?

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 4:34 am


Originally Posted by j_r_m (Post 27679946)
Ow. Ow. Ow.

Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.

But I'm not sure they do this.

Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.

Anyone want to place a bet?

? We're talking about EK.

5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.

FlyerRed5 Dec 30, 2016 11:52 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27679953)
? We're talking about EK.

5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.

Been a while since I worked for the GHA in MEL, but back then we would not upgrade rev pax Y-J just to onload subload non-rev pax. QR does this (from experience), but that was policy at EK ca. 2011 - things could have changed though!

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by jbflyboy84 (Post 27681440)
Been a while since I worked for the GHA in MEL, but back then we would not upgrade rev pax Y-J just to onload subload non-rev pax. QR does this (from experience), but that was policy at EK ca. 2011 - things could have changed though!

Given current load if there are no no-shows there would be some J-F op-ups as well to accommodate just the revenue pax in Y, so they'd need to double-op-up (Y-J and separately J-F) to accommodate a non-rev, which seems unlikely to me.

Saltire74 Dec 30, 2016 12:43 pm

Hi Folks

Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.

Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.

On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27681678)
Hi Folks

Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.

Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.

On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

Loads only available <72hrs prior to departure. I'd help out but I get my loads from a relative and try not to bother too often :rolleyes:

Saltire74 Dec 30, 2016 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681713)
Loads only available <72hrs prior to departure. I'd help out but I get my loads from a relative and try not to bother too often :rolleyes:

No worries skywardhunter. Signed up for sms alert. Again, Expertflyer also shows a (so far) empty F cabin. Fingers crossed.

S

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27681724)
No worries skywardhunter. Signed up for sms alert. Again, Expertflyer also shows a (so far) empty F cabin. Fingers crossed.

S

While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see

Saltire74 Dec 30, 2016 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681774)
While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see

I counted 22 unassigned seats including blocked/bassinet seats and zero seats unassigned in F.

Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding :D

S

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27681827)
I counted 22 unassigned seats including blocked/bassinet seats and zero seats unassigned in F.

Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding :D

S

gold guarantee would be Flex Plus (full fare Y class), basically you could book J on most routes for the same price

Saltire74 Dec 30, 2016 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681881)
gold guarantee would be Flex Plus (full fare Y class), basically you could book J on most routes for the same price

Well it wasn't that then :D. So how come on a dummy booking done less than 24 hours previously for the same flights showed as all sold out? I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway :cool:

S

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27681901)
Well it wasn't that then :D. So how come on a dummy booking done less than 24 hours previously for the same flights showed as all sold out? I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway :cool:

S

A lot can happen in 24 hours. Also if you changed it via phone perhaps they could force it through.

Saltire74 Dec 30, 2016 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 27681916)
A lot can happen in 24 hours. Also if you changed it via phone perhaps they could force it through.

So do you think there could be the slightest chance of an upgrade one way or the other? Can't see a GLA flight being full of Y Flex Plus pax :o

S

skywardhunter Dec 30, 2016 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by Saltire74 (Post 27681954)
So do you think there could be the slightest chance of an upgrade one way or the other? Can't see a GLA flight being full of Y Flex Plus pax :o

S

Upgrade pre-check-in is impossible to tell, even if J is open. At check-in on space-available basis always an option

eternaltransit Dec 30, 2016 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by j_r_m (Post 27679946)
Ow. Ow. Ow.

Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.

But I'm not sure they do this.

Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.

Anyone want to place a bet?

It is unlikely they will op-up just to put non-revs on, but it has sometimes happened (only with direct ASO+ approval though).

However, EK also sometimes offload non-revs even with available seats in order to accept other payload so even if there are seats there may not be space, unfortunately.


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