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Emirates changes Operational Upgrade procedure

Old Aug 17, 16, 5:38 am
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Emirates changes Operational Upgrade procedure

As today I was told by a senior staff member of Emirates they changed their upgrade policy. Before it was as per membership and Tier miles. Starting 14.08.16 its per ticket price. Hence those paid a higher fare will be upgraded first.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 5:54 am
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This was being discussed a few days ago:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/emira...l#post27062166
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Old Aug 17, 16, 6:07 am
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As ft101 mentioned, discussed in the other thread. My understanding is it was previously ordered first by status, then fare type, now it will be the other way around, not necessarily by the nominal value of the fare paid, but the type.

E.g. before it might have been

Plat Flex Plus
Plat Flex
Gold Flex
Gold Saver
Gold Saver
Silver Flex Plus
Silver Saver
Silver Saver

and now it would be

Plat Flex Plus
Silver Flex Plus
Plat Flex
Gold Flex
Gold Saver
Gold Saver
Silver Saver
Silver Saver
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Old Aug 17, 16, 7:18 am
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any time a silver gets an op up over a plat is a joke.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter View Post
As ft101 mentioned, discussed in the other thread. My understanding is it was previously ordered first by status, then fare type, now it will be the other way around, not necessarily by the nominal value of the fare paid, but the type.

E.g. before it might have been

Plat Flex Plus
Plat Flex
Gold Flex
Gold Saver
Gold Saver
Silver Flex Plus
Silver Saver
Silver Saver

and now it would be

Plat Flex Plus
Silver Flex Plus
Plat Flex
Gold Flex
Gold Saver
Gold Saver
Silver Saver
Silver Saver
And what about Blues and non status pax?
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Old Aug 17, 16, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by weasel07 View Post
And what about Blues and non status pax?
Surely bottom of the pile?

By the above logic a non member on a flex would get an op up over a plat who is a saver...
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Old Aug 17, 16, 9:59 am
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I hope this does not start a new industry trend and other FF programs adopt this philosophy.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 12:29 pm
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This is more two fingers from Emirates to DXB- based flyers. We already pay upto 50% more for fares than those transiting through Dubai and those who buy tickets ex other destinations. A saver fare ex-DXB to London will likely be paying more for a saver fare than a flex fare from CMB to London for example.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 2:51 pm
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Originally Posted by m3red View Post
Surely bottom of the pile?

By the above logic a non member on a flex would get an op up over a plat who is a saver...
Unfortunately not - non-members on Flex Plus fares will be upgraded before Plats on Savers.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 3:19 pm
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Originally Posted by eternaltransit View Post
Unfortunately not - non-members on Flex Plus fares will be upgraded before Plats on Savers.
I find that extremely hard to believe.....a first time flyer who purchased a Flux(Plus) has dibs over a seasoned Plat flyer who purchased a saver/flex? That's not loyalty, that a kick on the behind....

To add, a Flex(Plus) may be cheaper than a Saver in some instances...
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Old Aug 17, 16, 3:43 pm
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Originally Posted by torontoflyer View Post
I find that extremely hard to believe.....a first time flyer who purchased a Flux(Plus) has dibs over a seasoned Plat flyer who purchased a saver/flex? That's not loyalty, that a kick on the behind....

To add, a Flex(Plus) may be cheaper than a Saver in some instances...
Loyalty? In the airline industry? HA HA HA.

I'm afraid what customers believe and what companies do are two different things sometimes

They are rewarding profit margin, not perceived loyalty. Those who regularly purchase high margin tickets will not be impacted. Those who regularly purchase low margin tickets often may feel spurned but revenue management is a fickle lover - one day all they want are miles the next cold hard cash.

The price of a flex plus/flex/saver is irrelevant to the airline. What matters is the profit margin - and a flex plus will always have more profit margin than a saver, by design. Those who are hub captives are screwed anyway - the logic being they are paying for direct flights/no need to offer extra incentives to fly them

It remains to be seen whether the pax profile changes - especially as op-ups are not an entitlement to anyone and EK have always had full discretion to upgrade or downgrade anyone they want.
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Old Aug 17, 16, 8:29 pm
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Have EK recently employed a swathe of ex-BA managers?

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Old Aug 17, 16, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr_Ed View Post
This is more two fingers from Emirates to DXB- based flyers. We already pay upto 50% more for fares than those transiting through Dubai and those who buy tickets ex other destinations. A saver fare ex-DXB to London will likely be paying more for a saver fare than a flex fare from CMB to London for example.
This is a valid point, best to find creative routings etc.

I always thought it was done on ticket type within tier status, however as has been pointed out a j saver ex uk will be more expensive than a j flex ex Cmb...
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Old Aug 17, 16, 10:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Mr_Ed View Post
This is more two fingers from Emirates to DXB- based flyers. We already pay upto 50% more for fares than those transiting through Dubai and those who buy tickets ex other destinations. A saver fare ex-DXB to London will likely be paying more for a saver fare than a flex fare from CMB to London for example.
+1 ^
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Old Aug 18, 16, 1:18 am
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Actually this is the same as in Lufthansa? (ticket type above tier level).

But, was it always in different way?
It looks like " EK have always had full discretion to upgrade or downgrade anyone they want" is true.

Once I was on DXB-KUL flight with Y ticket upgraded by miles to J and I've got additional op. upgrade to F. I was Blue. I'm not sure if there really were no other pax with higher status in J.
So it was always not so "clear" ?
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