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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 4:42 pm
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Different countries different rules. Will you also boycott UK and US because some passengers are required to switch on electronic devices at departure gates but other countries don't require this?
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Old Feb 27, 2015 | 7:14 pm
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It seems like your world is rapidly getting smaller, given your habit of boycotting countries and airlines that have offended you. Soon you won't have any reason to maintain your FT membership.
He is very easily offended. .
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 2:00 am
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I flew through T1 for the first time a couple of weeks ago and have to agree with the OP, its a zoo. The worst thing was the immigration staff wandering up and down/leaving their posts to have a chat with their mates and a play with their phones, despite the queues of people going all the way back to the entrance. I assume its the untouchable Emirati syndrome at play again?

HKG is my favourite airport, but Singapore is up there. I cant even think where you would be searched as you don't encounter security personnel until you get to the gate? The people checking your passports are not there for security purposes. There must have been some kind of threat at the time, or you were behaving particularly strangely.
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by phol
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There must have been some kind of threat at the time, or you were behaving particularly strangely.
It was not only me, but all incoming passengers were being searched prior to heading to immigration, which was an absolute offense to me. Singapore needs to understand that first impressions are very important for first time visitors to Singapore. Unfortunately my first impression to Singapore was negative, which is why I have no intention of ever visiting/transiting in Singapore again in the future.

Singapore needs to learn from developed countries on how to treat its visitors. I was stopped to have my passport checked in HKG at the gate bridge, but then was cleared for immigration This was a bad experience (especially when I was flying J class on CX,) but not as bad as being searched upon arrival
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Old Mar 2, 2015 | 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
It was not only me, but all incoming passengers were being searched prior to heading to immigration, which was an absolute offense to me. Singapore needs to understand that first impressions are very important for first time visitors to Singapore. Unfortunately my first impression to Singapore was negative, which is why I have no intention of ever visiting/transiting in Singapore again in the future.
Well there you go, there was obviously some security threat they knew about so had to check everyone. That would be the case at any airport in the world. Don't be so stupid.
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
Unfortunately my first impression to Singapore was negative, which is why I have no intention of ever visiting/transiting in Singapore again in the future.

Singapore needs to learn from developed countries on how to treat its visitors. I was stopped to have my passport checked in HKG at the gate bridge, but then was cleared for immigration This was a bad experience (especially when I was flying J class on CX,) but not as bad as being searched upon arrival
Im sure the Singapore hotel association will rejoice that you have no plans to visit again.

And your assessment of Australia is based on ... Not travelling there but what you see on tv. You do know they have dogs that sniff you at the airports in Australia, in case you're carrying food.

And the indignity of having your passport checked when you get off the plane - certain countries I know used to impose heavy fines on airlines transporting passengers turning up at immigration without passports. So maybe they were just making sure no one was arriving without a passport.

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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Kettering Northants QC
Im sure the Singapore hotel association will rejoice that you have no plans to visit again.
If the OPs other posts are an indication of how he/she is like as a person then yes they probably will rejoice.

Anyway, this is all way off topic for a discussion about DXB : A Tale of 2 Terminals.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 6:21 am
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
I'm not talking about the customs luggage search, I'm talking about personal (metal detector) search that gets performed when you land in Singapore. Why do I have to remove my belt, smart-phone, wallet, coins, etc. and be searched all over again when I'm clearly heading towards immigration rather than a connecting flight?

I have been to DXB and CMB and neither airports have personally searched (metal-detector) me. It is natural to search my luggage, but it's definitely not natural when they ask me to remove my belt, coins, etc. when I'm clearly not transiting in the airport. Even in Hong Kong i was not searched.

This is totally disrespectful in my opinion
Maybe you fit the profile...Arab by chance?

I've transited or landed at SIN maybe a dozen times and never had anything more than the standard baggage and metal dectector screening when entering the departure lounge/gate. I too put it as my favorite airport.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
How many times do I have to repeat myself? If other developed countries (Dubai, Seoul, Hong Kong, Tokyo, etc.) do not screen you upon arrival, then Singapore has no right to screen me as well.

Why doe that matter any ways? Singapore lost me as a tourist. They need to start learning how to respect their customers (tourists.)
You sound as if you are either not a very experienced traveller or else you just go out of your way to get offended. I suspect that my second suggestion goes a long way towards explaining the treatment you receive.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
SIN? EWWWWWWWWWWW

When I arrived there people were treated like criminals (never in my life I have passed through security check upon arrival to an airport.) I have traveled to many countries around the world and the only airport I have been humiliated on upon arrival was SIN airport (tell me any other airport in the world that forces you to pass through security upon landing to go through immigration department?)

Best airport in my experience so far is Hong Kong airport. Staff there are friendly and the atmosphere is very nice
SIN only has security check for a few countries which are considered "not very safe". I think the only time I've had security-on-arrival was from Thailand. And it was still done in a very human matter. SIN isn't the best in every aspect, but it's definitely a very nice airport, beating most if not all others in most aspects.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 6:31 am
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I wonder if everyone is aware that Singapore has some of the most draconian laws on earth. I'm not complaining only informing. Do you realize that you can pass through Singapore Immigration and then Customs, thus entering the country. Immigration authorities can then pull you to the side and bring you to the rest room. There you can be made to give a urine sample or a follicle of hair. If the sample is positive for drugs you will be arrested and imprisoned. By the way, punishment for most drug use in Singapore is the death penalty or you may get lucky and get life without parole. You can be arrested for holding hands with your wife or girlfriend openly on the street. Being openly gay can get you a long prison sentence. Taking photos in the subway or of government buildings can get you arrested and your camera confiscated. The Australian Consulate disseminates a document to all Australian citizens who work in, live in, or visit Singapore. It's simply a listing of all of the unique laws that you can be arrested under and imprisoned. The list is two pages long. Also, If an Immigration officer does not like the way you look, dress, or act he can refuse you entry to the country. Doesn't have to explain. You will have to get the next flight out to another country at your own expense. That being said Singapore is probably the cleanest country with the least crime on earth. It also has the highest standard of living.
You do know that just about everything you said in your post is incorrect...just saying!
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 7:05 am
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Originally Posted by floridastorm
I wonder if everyone is aware that Singapore has some of the most draconian laws on earth. I'm not complaining only informing. Do you realize that you can pass through Singapore Immigration and then Customs, thus entering the country. Immigration authorities can then pull you to the side and bring you to the rest room. There you can be made to give a urine sample or a follicle of hair. If the sample is positive for drugs you will be arrested and imprisoned. By the way, punishment for most drug use in Singapore is the death penalty or you may get lucky and get life without parole. You can be arrested for holding hands with your wife or girlfriend openly on the street. Being openly gay can get you a long prison sentence. Taking photos in the subway or of government buildings can get you arrested and your camera confiscated. The Australian Consulate disseminates a document to all Australian citizens who work in, live in, or visit Singapore. It's simply a listing of all of the unique laws that you can be arrested under and imprisoned. The list is two pages long. Also, If an Immigration officer does not like the way you look, dress, or act he can refuse you entry to the country. Doesn't have to explain. You will have to get the next flight out to another country at your own expense. That being said Singapore is probably the cleanest country with the least crime on earth. It also has the highest standard of living.
I am 100% sure you've not been to Singapore. And whoever told you that crap must have had their fun of a lifetime into making you believing it all. Exaggerated by about 3000%.
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Old Apr 27, 2015 | 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by aceboy44
I'm not talking about the customs luggage search, I'm talking about personal (metal detector) search that gets performed when you land in Singapore. Why do I have to remove my belt, smart-phone, wallet, coins, etc. and be searched all over again when I'm clearly heading towards immigration rather than a connecting flight?
I have been through Singapore airport over 150 times, on about 3 maybe 4 times there was security when getting off the plane. It is exactly the same security at the gate as you normally get when boarding. It is annoying as you have to line up again and take everything out of your pocket (otherwise how else are you going to get through the metal detector without it going PING). And repack your carry on after the x-ray. Annoying - but how can it be disrespectful when they are doing it to everyone on the plane?

The plane is also taken to the furthest arrival gate (which has multiple boarding gates, so they can run multiple x-ray and metal detectors at once, rather than the standard 2 per gate), none of the other boarding gates are used at this time, to keep the passengers on this plane separate, and get everyone off as quickly as possible. However, it does mean a long walk to where ever you want to go (arrivals, lounge, another gate etc.)

There is no way, NONE that when walking past all the other gates you saw every plane doing arrival security - departure YES, as security is done at the gate and not some central point, which makes it a great transit airport, but not arrival. As you hadn't been to Singapore before you wouldn't know that getting off a plane the air bridge leads straight into the concourse, not past x-rays.

They do this as they are looking for something specific. Or someone. There was some customs tip off and the one time you went to Singapore you were on a plane that likely had some drug couriers and you round on a country / airport that has a zero tolerance policy which the arrivals announcement would have said.

Ask questions on why do you think they did this on the one flight you arrived on rather than assuming it is normal.

And lastly - how can they tell that you as an arriving passenger is "Clearly" heading for arrivals and not transiting when all transiting and arriving passengers mix on a common concourse?
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Old Apr 28, 2015 | 2:28 am
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Why are you guys letting aceboy44 derail this thread? His whole gimmick here seems to be to go into a subforum and make an unsubstantiated (arrival security in SIN)/unreasonable (not allowed to use lounge as Y passenger in DXB, complain about lights being on on QR flights) complaint and then watch people call him an idiot. Somehow he gets off on that, but why bother responding when there's some discussion to be had about how crap T1 at DXB is?

Though one thing T1 has going for it is that the landside food court is much better than T3.


edit: I just started reading his hotel reviews, lol at them too

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Old May 7, 2015 | 12:02 pm
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Travel on CX in Feb this year with my family. Upon check in we were warned by the agent to proceed to the gate early as it was "congested". We had no idea how congested it was until we were about 100 metres from the entrance. It took us nearly 20 mins just to get pass the ticket/ passport check at the entrance .... Then another 30 mins before we cleared immigration. At this stage, at least there were some attempts to get peoples into proper queues .... As we step into the security check area it was absolute mayhem. There was no queue, everyone just pressed against each other pushing and shelving towards one of the security check scanners. You can hear people shouting and arguing, children crying in distress and several families with young children (including myself) separated from the young ones and begging people around us to let us get through to our children. This is a total disgrace and there was not an officer in sight to attempt to control the crowd. I told my wife I would never ever travel through terminal 1 again and will from now on only travel on Emirates to avoid all these ........ Maybe, and I am just speculating, this is the whole point of maintaining terminal 1 like a circus so that more will follow my lead
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