To the nearest hour....
Jan 6, 2013, 1:12 am
#46
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I've never been late flying INTO MAN, but always late flying OUT of MAN on EK17/18. If that would have any relevance.
Jan 6, 2013, 2:20 am
#47
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If the flight is not late arriving, what is the reason for the continual tardiness of flying out of MAN?
Jan 6, 2013, 3:01 am
#48
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Jan 6, 2013, 3:07 am
#49
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I have been tracking the EK412 DXB to SYD.
I am flying there instead of BNE in three weeks time and wanted to make sure that my domestic connection was appropriately timed. My BNE flights have been early arriving but the 412 is regularly late arriving. I wont say consistently because I haven't tracked it that carefully BUT I will say seemingly more often than not. 50 minutes late this morning.
I am flying there instead of BNE in three weeks time and wanted to make sure that my domestic connection was appropriately timed. My BNE flights have been early arriving but the 412 is regularly late arriving. I wont say consistently because I haven't tracked it that carefully BUT I will say seemingly more often than not. 50 minutes late this morning.
Jan 6, 2013, 3:37 am
#50
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In my experience of this flight, there are often 10+ wheelchair passengers to sort out which adds time.
The average departure delay is 43 minutes. It then gets to Dubai at the busiest time, so probably also has to hold.
Jan 6, 2013, 4:06 am
#51
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I'm guessing that the delay is due to the gate being really far from the lounge and the announcements are always last minute, so that may play a role. Especially when the J and F are almost always full on this flight.
Jan 6, 2013, 4:42 am
#52
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The turnaround time is 2 hours, which is pretty tight for a full A380. The incoming flight is often late as it departs in the main morning bank from DXB.
In my experience of this flight, there are often 10+ wheelchair passengers to sort out which adds time.
The average departure delay is 43 minutes. It then gets to Dubai at the busiest time, so probably also has to hold.
In my experience of this flight, there are often 10+ wheelchair passengers to sort out which adds time.
The average departure delay is 43 minutes. It then gets to Dubai at the busiest time, so probably also has to hold.
Jan 6, 2013, 4:59 am
#53
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Thanks DYKWIA - thats spot on and explains my frequent delays on this flight. By the time I land in DXB its near on an hour behind schedule most times, and I usually have a tight connection. which I always just make -except for when we had the one off 5 hour delay in December.
I think MAN do a good job at turning it round - I guess the boarding is a bit of a zoo and it takes ages...I've never left on time - pretty much always 45-60 mins late.
When I left DXB on 22 Dec it was over an hour late....
Jan 6, 2013, 6:20 am
#54
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This seems highly improbable. You are saying most of your flights are 2x+ worse than EK's average?
If EK is at a 67% average of departure with a 20 minute delay, they are likely 80%+ within a delay up to 1 hour, just an interpolative conservative guess, probably more like 90%. But, your own experience is a less than a 50% record of a 1 hour delay?
If EK is at a 67% average of departure with a 20 minute delay, they are likely 80%+ within a delay up to 1 hour, just an interpolative conservative guess, probably more like 90%. But, your own experience is a less than a 50% record of a 1 hour delay?
The OTD figures given are daily and monthly. I am told (by my flight deck pals) that the OTD figure for 2012 was rarely ever above 70%.
Last edited by SimpleDXB; Jan 6, 2013 at 3:29 pm
Jan 6, 2013, 6:59 am
#55
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The turnaround time is 2 hours, which is pretty tight for a full A380. The incoming flight is often late as it departs in the main morning bank from DXB.
In my experience of this flight, there are often 10+ wheelchair passengers to sort out which adds time.
The average departure delay is 43 minutes. It then gets to Dubai at the busiest time, so probably also has to hold.
In my experience of this flight, there are often 10+ wheelchair passengers to sort out which adds time.
The average departure delay is 43 minutes. It then gets to Dubai at the busiest time, so probably also has to hold.
Thanks!
Jan 6, 2013, 2:51 pm
#56
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The OTD gives a % of flights that have a MINIMUM of 15mins delay - or put another way, 33% of flights left on time (within 15 mins of allocated block PB time).
The OTD figures given are daily and monthly. I am told (by my flight deck pals) that the OTD figure for 2012 was rarely ever above 70%.
The OTD figures given are daily and monthly. I am told (by my flight deck pals) that the OTD figure for 2012 was rarely ever above 70%.
63% of flights departed more than 15 minutes late? And 37% departed under 15 minutes late?
That appears opposite to what I would expect that figure to represent. I would think an OTD of 100% would mean a perfect record of departing on time.
Jan 6, 2013, 3:34 pm
#57
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So, what you are saying is, in this quote: "Note their on time departure (OTD) figure for Dec is 63%.", it means:
63% of flights departed more than 15 minutes late? And 37% departed under 15 minutes late?
That appears opposite to what I would expect that figure to represent. I would think an OTD of 100% would mean a perfect record of departing on time.
63% of flights departed more than 15 minutes late? And 37% departed under 15 minutes late?
That appears opposite to what I would expect that figure to represent. I would think an OTD of 100% would mean a perfect record of departing on time.
I note my experiences flying out of and into DXB with other Carriers (CX, SQ, QR, BA, VX, TQ etc etc etc) is much better than that of EK with less delays... I don't see how a new terminal is going to improve things for EK given there are still only 2 runways (which can't be used consecutively as they are 25m too close) and also same ATC...?