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Patrick1203 Sep 26, 2025 12:28 am


Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican2 (Post 37339411)
I fly between DXB and JNB quite a bit and have not encountered the refreshed J on the A380 or 763. The 77Ws on 761 and 765 regularly have it now. Part of the issue is 77Ws are being refurbished at a far faster rate than the 388s.

That's not what I mean. I'm referring to the old business class with the plastic rather than wooden design.

IntrepidAfrican2 Sep 26, 2025 1:43 am


Originally Posted by Patrick1203 (Post 37339598)
That's not what I mean. I'm referring to the old business class with the plastic rather than wooden design.

That’s what I referred to.

Patrick1203 Sep 26, 2025 1:59 am


Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican2 (Post 37339665)
That’s what I referred to.

I think we're talking at cross-purposes. There's the old business class with the wooden design, including around the monitors, and then there's the really old one where plastic is still used instead of wood.
I'm not talking about the new business class that's part of the conversion to PE.

IntrepidAfrican2 Sep 26, 2025 2:09 am


Originally Posted by Patrick1203 (Post 37339673)
I think we're talking at cross-purposes. There's the old business class with the wooden design, including around the monitors, and then there's the really old one where plastic is still used instead of wood.
I'm not talking about the new business class that's part of the conversion to PE.

Ah okay. Maybe you should edit your first post, as in the middle of a major fleet retrofit, many will think you’re referring to the most recent vs the others when you say “refreshed” and both the second gen and third gen have wood.

To answer your question on that route i doubt there is a discernible pattern. Sometimes it’s ancient, other times less ancient.

A6EDH Oct 7, 2025 6:13 am

No flights for A6-EBK since the end of September. Wonder if it’s now been stood down?

Pandor Oct 7, 2025 6:52 am


Originally Posted by FoxCL9 (Post 37161155)

I flew on A6-EUB yesterday and noticed that the refurbished F suites and gamechanger colour business class seats were installed which was a very pleasant surprise. Though still no coffee tables in the lounge.

A6EDH Oct 9, 2025 5:23 am

A6-EXK is currently showing on Flightradar parked outside the Airbus delivery centre. Looks like delivery flight is imminent!

A6EDH Oct 16, 2025 3:21 pm

A6-EOL has not only received a refurb and PE added, but has also been repainted in the new livery

A6EDH Oct 21, 2025 2:51 pm

A6-EXJ is currently on its delivery flight to DXB. Is this an LR config'd A350?
Also, A6-EEF, which went on a test flight yesterday is set to re-enter service tonight on EK420 to Perth after what seems to be a D-Check

CaptainEKAirbus Oct 21, 2025 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by CaptainEKAirbus (Post 37290592)
The 77L will be retrofitted with the new premium economy product starting this December into the configuration 38J/24W/214Y, denoted the '77LK'. J seats will not be changed out in this phase of the retrofit.

I was waiting to see if EK's comms team was going to put out a PR before I responded, but it appears they invertedly uploaded the new 3-class 77L seat map, so its now public anyways:
https://www.emirates.com/ae/english/...tra-long-range

Approximate start dates are as follows:
EK809/810 MED on Jan 14
EK530/531 COK on Jan 15
EK310/311 HGH on Jan 18
EK255/256 BCN/MEX on Jan 22 becoming daily on Jan 29
EK606/607 KHI on Feb 9
EK913/914 DAM on Feb 9
EK723/724 ADD on Feb 18
EK807/808 MED on Feb 20

As noted above, BCN/MEX will remain on the 77L.

These unofficial dates have now been pushed back.

Currently showing EK809/810 MED as of Jan 29, EK255/256 BCN/MEX as of Feb 6.


Originally Posted by A6EDH (Post 37384434)
A6-EXJ is currently on its delivery flight to DXB. Is this an LR config'd A350?
Also, A6-EEF, which went on a test flight yesterday is set to re-enter service tonight on EK420 to Perth after what seems to be a D-Check

EXJ is in a 32/21/259 configuration.

Usually those 12-yr checks are referred to as the 6C check. They appear to be working their way through the EE* series aircraft as they approach 12-yrs old.

LXA350 Oct 22, 2025 1:43 pm

Since the whole cabin needs to be removed when doing the retrofit, wouldn't it be more efficient to combine the heavy maintenance with the project, instead of doing double work to somee extend?

CaptainEKAirbus Oct 30, 2025 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by LXA350 (Post 37386060)
Since the whole cabin needs to be removed when doing the retrofit, wouldn't it be more efficient to combine the heavy maintenance with the project, instead of doing double work to somee extend?

Quite a number of the 6C checks are performed by third-party MROs including HAECO, GAMECO, and LH Technik in MNL. EK seems content with performing all of their retrofits in-house, rather than outsourcing to these providers.

As to why the few aircraft undergoing 6C checks performed in-house don't get retrofitted, I would hazard a guess that it's due to supply chain constraints. I recall hearing that interior pieces have been extremely hard to source.

turtlemichael Nov 2, 2025 12:16 am

I'm looking at EK65 DXB-STN in April 2026. It is a B777 and has a business class with all seat aisle access. Does this get changed out for an older version of B777 much? I don't want to take the risk, if there is any, and will fly to LHR or LGW as an alternative.

FoxCL9 Nov 3, 2025 2:20 am


Originally Posted by turtlemichael (Post 37404377)
I'm looking at EK65 DXB-STN in April 2026. It is a B777 and has a business class with all seat aisle access. Does this get changed out for an older version of B777 much? I don't want to take the risk, if there is any, and will fly to LHR or LGW as an alternative.

Hard to say for sure so far in advance, but so far EK65 has an excellent track record. The last time they substituted an older B777 on this route was 1st July.

thijsseh Nov 3, 2025 4:04 am


Originally Posted by FoxCL9 (Post 37406073)
Hard to say for sure so far in advance, but so far EK65 has an excellent track record. The last time they substituted an older B777 on this route was 1st July.

Yes, and as they will sell PE seats, it is more 'difficult' for the airline to use the 3 class with old J.
By the way, LGW has (up till now) not had PE frames (either 77W or A380), so that would not be an option unless you go A380 of course.


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