New member needs advice
#31
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JCX,
Being new to the forum I did not know that such posts were not welcome here, so I agree it is my error in asking such a question.
As for my wife`s injury I had never said that it was immobilizing her,my first post was on the day of the injury and in the next 2 days things progressed well enough for her.
Also when at the airport we requested the agent for either a comp upgrade or we were ready to pay having made our mind to spend the money,it was the airline discretion to give us the upgrade so having conned the airline did not exsist unless you have some different meaning for the word con.
As for Fish what offended me was the word sympathy used in a derogatory manner.
Anyways learnt my lesson about this forum.
Regards,
Indian.
Being new to the forum I did not know that such posts were not welcome here, so I agree it is my error in asking such a question.
As for my wife`s injury I had never said that it was immobilizing her,my first post was on the day of the injury and in the next 2 days things progressed well enough for her.
Also when at the airport we requested the agent for either a comp upgrade or we were ready to pay having made our mind to spend the money,it was the airline discretion to give us the upgrade so having conned the airline did not exsist unless you have some different meaning for the word con.
As for Fish what offended me was the word sympathy used in a derogatory manner.
Anyways learnt my lesson about this forum.
Regards,
Indian.
The part that confuses and worries me is how, if, as you say the injury didn't immobilize or incapacitate her, she allowed herself to be placed in a wheelchair for goodness sake?!?!?
Wheelchairs cause HUGE extra work for the crew, handling and check-in staff. Often they cost the airline extra money and are also limited in number at certain airports, so by allowing herself to be placed a wheel chair, she could well have taken the place or caused a delay to some one who genuinely needed to be in a wheelchair.
Out of interest, was she also upgraded on the second sector?
Regards,
JGX
Last edited by JGX; Dec 6, 2009 at 2:07 pm
#32
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Actually, it's JGX but that's of little relevance.
The part that confuses and worries me is how, if, as you say the injury didn't immobilize or incapacitate her, she allowed herself to be placed in a wheelchair for goodness sake?!?!?
Wheelchairs cause HUGE extra work for the crew, handling and check-in staff. Often they cost the airline extra money and are also limited in number at certain airports, so by allowing herself to be placed a wheel chair, she could well have taken the place or caused a delay to some one who genuinely needed to be in a wheelchair.
Out of interest, was she also upgraded on the second sector?
Regards,
JGX
The part that confuses and worries me is how, if, as you say the injury didn't immobilize or incapacitate her, she allowed herself to be placed in a wheelchair for goodness sake?!?!?
Wheelchairs cause HUGE extra work for the crew, handling and check-in staff. Often they cost the airline extra money and are also limited in number at certain airports, so by allowing herself to be placed a wheel chair, she could well have taken the place or caused a delay to some one who genuinely needed to be in a wheelchair.
Out of interest, was she also upgraded on the second sector?
Regards,
JGX
I will explain it one more time although I wrote about it before,when we reached the airline counter we gave the passports to the agent and informed her that we would require the buisness class seats(either paid or comped) as my wife had the sesamoid bone fracture,she took a glance at the bandaged foot and went and spoke to her boss and came back and printed the new boarding passes and gave them to us and said that she already ordered for a wheelchair.
All this happened in a matter of 5 minutes.
#33
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I think you will find that on many issues on the forum that it is not a case of being right or wrong. As JGX pointed out to me some months ago, opinions are neither right nor wrong. They are just that - opinions. Facts are different. I expressed an opinion and I believe looking at the other responses, I had support. Never mind, you got what you were after, an upgrade for your good lady and family, thus saving you thousands of dollars.
#34
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I think you will find that on many issues on the forum that it is not a case of being right or wrong. As JGX pointed out to me some months ago, opinions are neither right nor wrong. They are just that - opinions. Facts are different. I expressed an opinion and I believe looking at the other responses, I had support. Never mind, you got what you were after, an upgrade for your good lady and family, thus saving you thousands of dollars.

Even I do not want to get into a slanging match with you but would not take in your rude remarks lying low. You may have your opinion but your choice of words was very poor according to me.
Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 3:32 pm
#35
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JGX,
I will explain it one more time although I wrote about it before,when we reached the airline counter we gave the passports to the agent and informed her that we would require the buisness class seats(either paid or comped) as my wife had the sesamoid bone fracture,she took a glance at the bandaged foot and went and spoke to her boss and came back and printed the new boarding passes and gave them to us and said that she already ordered for a wheelchair.
All this happened in a matter of 5 minutes.
I will explain it one more time although I wrote about it before,when we reached the airline counter we gave the passports to the agent and informed her that we would require the buisness class seats(either paid or comped) as my wife had the sesamoid bone fracture,she took a glance at the bandaged foot and went and spoke to her boss and came back and printed the new boarding passes and gave them to us and said that she already ordered for a wheelchair.
All this happened in a matter of 5 minutes.
#36
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So, at no point during any of this entire 5 minute window, did it enter her head to say, "Errm, thanks but no, I don't actually need the wheelchair, you see, I'm not actually incapacitated at all; Save yourself and the cabin crew and flight crew and the dispatch guys and the handling agents and the handlers and the poor sod who has to push me all the way around LAX a whole lot of trouble and use the wheelchair for someone who really needs it"?
and your point is.................................
Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 3:25 pm
#37
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#38
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You have been trying to ask all kinds of questions to get a point to beat me but could not get one so now geting judgemental is your last refuge.
Wish I could help but does not seem so.
Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 2:55 pm
#39
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Again that may be your opinion and you have no right to get judgemental and say that the honour is lost,I tried to explain the entire episode in many different times to you but you are lost in your own lala land and now are geting judgemental.
You have been trying to ask all kinds of questions to get a point to beat me but could not get one so now geting judgemental is your last refuge.
Wish I could help but does not seem so.
You have been trying to ask all kinds of questions to get a point to beat me but could not get one so now geting judgemental is your last refuge.
Wish I could help but does not seem so.
Regards,
JGX
#40
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No point debating with you, you have a myopic view about the whole issue. When you cannot win the debate you start attacking.........................
Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 3:17 pm
#43
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Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .
There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .
So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .
I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!
JGX
#44
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Hi Indian,
Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .
There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .
So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .
I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!
Priceless! Just priceless!
JGX
Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .
There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .
So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .
I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!
JGX
I can see your deep desire in finding a point to beat me up but to your frustration you can not find one.You have been all over the place from objecting the wheel chair to refusing the free upgrade and paying for the same also to accuse us of being cons which is totally beyond me to understand that a person who claims to be talking about conscience has no qualms in accusing a lady travelling with kids who he does not know remotely of being a con because you cannot digest the thought that the airline upgraded her maybe for better customer service {SHAME ON YOU FOR THAT}, even to issues of honour and now speaking to a doctor.Next I guess you would ask why she had food in buisness class as she did not pay for the same.
As for accusation of we being actors and winning the Oscars I would reserve my comments as educating you is beyond me and would take decades.
Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 8:29 pm
#45
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Hi Indian,
Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .
There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .
So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .
I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!
Priceless! Just priceless!
JGX
Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .
There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .
So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .
I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!
JGX
A sprain or strain to the small interphalangeal joints of the toe is commonly called a stubbed toe.
For your doctor friend`s information and for free advice she gave to you, in reality my wife has a sesamoid bone fracture and not a sprain which was picked up on the Xray and on the subsequent bone scan, yet again this goes on to prove that the kind of advice you get depends on what you pay for it. Further would love to envisage her face when the chuckle turns to a frown.

Last edited by indianindian2006; Dec 6, 2009 at 8:24 pm

