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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
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Being new to the forum I did not know that such posts were not welcome here, so I agree it is my error in asking such a question.
As for my wife`s injury I had never said that it was immobilizing her,my first post was on the day of the injury and in the next 2 days things progressed well enough for her.
Also when at the airport we requested the agent for either a comp upgrade or we were ready to pay having made our mind to spend the money,it was the airline discretion to give us the upgrade so having conned the airline did not exsist unless you have some different meaning for the word con.
As for Fish what offended me was the word sympathy used in a derogatory manner.
Anyways learnt my lesson about this forum.

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Actually, it's JGX but that's of little relevance.

The part that confuses and worries me is how, if, as you say the injury didn't immobilize or incapacitate her, she allowed herself to be placed in a wheelchair for goodness sake?!?!?

Wheelchairs cause HUGE extra work for the crew, handling and check-in staff. Often they cost the airline extra money and are also limited in number at certain airports, so by allowing herself to be placed a wheel chair, she could well have taken the place or caused a delay to some one who genuinely needed to be in a wheelchair.

Out of interest, was she also upgraded on the second sector?

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:17 pm
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Actually, it's JGX but that's of little relevance.

The part that confuses and worries me is how, if, as you say the injury didn't immobilize or incapacitate her, she allowed herself to be placed in a wheelchair for goodness sake?!?!?

Wheelchairs cause HUGE extra work for the crew, handling and check-in staff. Often they cost the airline extra money and are also limited in number at certain airports, so by allowing herself to be placed a wheel chair, she could well have taken the place or caused a delay to some one who genuinely needed to be in a wheelchair.

Out of interest, was she also upgraded on the second sector?

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JGX,

I will explain it one more time although I wrote about it before,when we reached the airline counter we gave the passports to the agent and informed her that we would require the buisness class seats(either paid or comped) as my wife had the sesamoid bone fracture,she took a glance at the bandaged foot and went and spoke to her boss and came back and printed the new boarding passes and gave them to us and said that she already ordered for a wheelchair.
All this happened in a matter of 5 minutes.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
I am right here fish.
I think you will find that on many issues on the forum that it is not a case of being right or wrong. As JGX pointed out to me some months ago, opinions are neither right nor wrong. They are just that - opinions. Facts are different. I expressed an opinion and I believe looking at the other responses, I had support. Never mind, you got what you were after, an upgrade for your good lady and family, thus saving you thousands of dollars.
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:28 pm
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I think you will find that on many issues on the forum that it is not a case of being right or wrong. As JGX pointed out to me some months ago, opinions are neither right nor wrong. They are just that - opinions. Facts are different. I expressed an opinion and I believe looking at the other responses, I had support. Never mind, you got what you were after, an upgrade for your good lady and family, thus saving you thousands of dollars.
I dont know about you fish but for me a derogatory opinion is an insult, so I had to speak.
Even I do not want to get into a slanging match with you but would not take in your rude remarks lying low. You may have your opinion but your choice of words was very poor according to me.

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
JGX,

I will explain it one more time although I wrote about it before,when we reached the airline counter we gave the passports to the agent and informed her that we would require the buisness class seats(either paid or comped) as my wife had the sesamoid bone fracture,she took a glance at the bandaged foot and went and spoke to her boss and came back and printed the new boarding passes and gave them to us and said that she already ordered for a wheelchair.
All this happened in a matter of 5 minutes.
So, at no point during any of this entire 5 minute window, did it enter her head to say, "Errm, thanks but no, I don't actually need the wheelchair, you see, I'm not actually incapacitated at all; Save yourself and the cabin crew and flight crew and the dispatch guys and the handling agents and the handlers and the poor sod who has to push me all the way around LAX a whole lot of trouble and use the wheelchair for someone who really needs it"?
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:37 pm
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So, at no point during any of this entire 5 minute window, did it enter her head to say, "Errm, thanks but no, I don't actually need the wheelchair, you see, I'm not actually incapacitated at all; Save yourself and the cabin crew and flight crew and the dispatch guys and the handling agents and the handlers and the poor sod who has to push me all the way around LAX a whole lot of trouble and use the wheelchair for someone who really needs it"?
She had a sesamoid bone fracture and for this the airline deemed fit that she use the wheel chair.
and your point is.................................

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
and your point is.................................
Simply one of conscience and honour and one that is clearly lost here. . .

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:49 pm
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Simply one of conscience and honour and one that is clearly lost here. . .

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Again that may be your opinion but you have no right to get judgemental and say that the honour is lost,I tried to explain the entire episode in many different times to you but you are lost in your own lala land and now are geting judgemental.
You have been trying to ask all kinds of questions to get a point to beat me but could not get one so now geting judgemental is your last refuge.
Wish I could help but does not seem so.

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
Again that may be your opinion and you have no right to get judgemental and say that the honour is lost,I tried to explain the entire episode in many different times to you but you are lost in your own lala land and now are geting judgemental.
You have been trying to ask all kinds of questions to get a point to beat me but could not get one so now geting judgemental is your last refuge.
Wish I could help but does not seem so.
Actually, I think you'll find that insults are the last refuge of the out-argued - a point which you prove consummately. . .

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Actually, I think you'll find that insults are the last refuge of the out-argued - a point which you prove consummately. . .

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No point debating with you, you have a myopic view about the whole issue. When you cannot win the debate you start attacking.........................

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
No point debating with you
A wise decision, if i may say so. . .

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A wise decision, if i may say so. . .

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Good at least one thing we agree upon..................
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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by indianindian2006
She had a sesamoid bone fracture and for this the airline deemed fit that she use the wheel chair.
and your point is.................................
Hi Indian,

Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .

There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .

So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .

I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 5:18 pm
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Originally Posted by JGX
Hi Indian,

Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .

There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .

So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .

I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!

JGX
For a moment I thought that this debate was laid to rest but you start again, so all this while you did not read my posts properly,I clearly mentioned about the sesamoid bone fracture from post 18 onwards but will explain in details once again for you. On the first day when she fell the pain was very bad and she herself being a doctor realised that it was a fracture and that was the time I wrote the first mail,I was truthful then and am truthful now,subsequently she went to the podiatrist and was diagnosed as sesmoid bone fracture which was badaged in a cast.
I can see your deep desire in finding a point to beat me up but to your frustration you can not find one.You have been all over the place from objecting the wheel chair to refusing the free upgrade and paying for the same also to accuse us of being cons which is totally beyond me to understand that a person who claims to be talking about conscience has no qualms in accusing a lady travelling with kids who he does not know remotely of being a con because you cannot digest the thought that the airline upgraded her maybe for better customer service {SHAME ON YOU FOR THAT}, even to issues of honour and now speaking to a doctor.Next I guess you would ask why she had food in buisness class as she did not pay for the same.
As for accusation of we being actors and winning the Oscars I would reserve my comments as educating you is beyond me and would take decades.

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 5:37 pm
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Originally Posted by JGX
Hi Indian,

Noticed you'd added the "sesamoid bone fracture" sentence to this post. Being just a humble pilot, I realised I didn't actually know what a "sesamoid bone fracture" was, so I asked a chum of mine who is a Doctor what it was. . .

There was a slight pause, followed by a chuckle down the line and she said, "It's more commonly known as a stubbed toe". . .

So, in just a few posts, your story went from, "fractured leg" to a, errm. . . "stubbed toe". . .

I've got to hand it to you, you and your wife not only deserve the upgrade, you should get an Oscar!!!

Priceless! Just priceless!

JGX
Here is the defination of stubed toe and is for your doctor friend who chuckles and it is from Wikipedia,
A sprain or strain to the small interphalangeal joints of the toe is commonly called a stubbed toe.

For your doctor friend`s information and for free advice she gave to you, in reality my wife has a sesamoid bone fracture and not a sprain which was picked up on the Xray and on the subsequent bone scan, yet again this goes on to prove that the kind of advice you get depends on what you pay for it. Further would love to envisage her face when the chuckle turns to a frown.

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