LY first flight to UAE

Old Aug 26, 20, 6:05 am
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LY first flight to UAE

El Al is expected to operate the first flight between TLV and Abu Dhabi next week the beginning of September carrying US and Israeli delegation

Should be interesting to follow and see the route of it flies over the KSA

https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-fir...ght%20To%20UAE
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Old Aug 26, 20, 7:02 am
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Aren't all El Al flights stopped right now - or has that suspension been reversed and I just didn't read about it?
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Old Aug 26, 20, 2:59 pm
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I assume this is a government charter and they're paying for the Israeli flag to land there.
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Old Aug 26, 20, 3:41 pm
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I assume this is a government charter and they're paying for the Israeli flag to land there.
That would make sense.
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Old Aug 27, 20, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by ly787 View Post
El Al is expected to operate the first flight between TLV and Abu Dhabi next week the beginning of September carrying US and Israeli delegation

Should be interesting to follow and see the route of it flies over the KSA

https://onemileatatime.com/el-al-fir...ght%20To%20UAE

your post makes 100% sense the following from JPost.com doesnt: Israeli airline El Al was chosen to carry out the historic first commercial flight from Israel to the United Arab Emirates, according to Israeli media.

The decision comes after Israel's government asked the country's airlines to submit bids for a special flight to carry an Israeli delegation and top aides to US President Donald Trump to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) on Monday.

Its a charter flight and not a commercial flight , nor is it the 1st flight to the UAE that belongs to EY when their flight flew back from dropping off its cargo @ TLV. It would be the 1st Israeli Carrier flight
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Old Aug 27, 20, 11:41 am
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Flight apparently will be operated on Monday on a 737-900 4x-EHD ( and not with a 789 as previously reported)
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Originally Posted by ly787 View Post
Flight apparently will be operated on Monday on a 737-900 4x-EHD ( and not with a 789 as previously reported)
Surprising choice. Wonder who will get to sit up front.
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Looking forward to tracking flight. Hope there is regular service by early July. I am planning on flying from Lusaka, Zambia to Israel on July 7 at the end of a safari. So far, it really has to be on ET via ADD. Would really be amazing if I could fly LUN-DXB and then DXB-TLV, preferably LY.
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Old Aug 27, 20, 9:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ly787 View Post
Flight apparently will be operated on Monday on a 737-900 4x-EHD ( and not with a 789 as previously reported)
Nice. Let see what happens. They can allowed overfly KSA airspace. If there is no problem at all. They will relaxed the restrictions.

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Surprising choice. Wonder who will get to sit up front.
Hope they will get it in front seat. If someone who ride in the jumpseating.
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Old Aug 28, 20, 7:35 am
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They can allowed overfly KSA airspace. If there is no problem at all. They will relaxed the restrictions.
Can you please provide a source for that rather extra-ordinary claim? If something that drastic had changed in the last 2 weeks I think we would have heard about it.

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(13 August 2020)
The airports are some 2,000km apart but while Emirates and Etihad Airways would, in theory, be able to operate services through the Bahrain, Baghdad or Jeddah flight information regions without hindrance, El Al remains restricted in its freedom to transit Arab airspace.

This is particularly critical in the case of the vast Jeddah FIR, encompassing Saudi Arabian airspace, the size of which serves as a barrier to efficient flightpaths between Israel and several Asian destinations.

Without Saudi transit, El Al flights to the UAE would need to fly a lengthy detour south along the Red Sea, doubling the distance.

The transit of Saudi airspace became a high-profile issue more than two years ago when Air India started operating to Tel Aviv from Delhi along a route which took it through the Jeddah FIR – provoking the ire of El Al, which complained about the distortion of competition given that the Israeli carrier was forced to operate a longer route.

Etihad Airways flew a landmark humanitarian service from Abu Dhabi to Tel Aviv on 19 May, using an Airbus A330-200.

The aircraft’s circuitous flightpath avoided Saudi airspace altogether, instead following the standard northern route along the Persian Gulf and through eastern Iraq before it eventually turned to head south, only approaching Israel in the final stage from the eastern Mediterranean.
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Old Aug 28, 20, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by ly787 View Post
Flight apparently will be operated on Monday on a 737-900 4x-EHD ( and not with a 789 as previously reported)
Interestingly, looks like she did a test flight yesterday. JP reports they're using 73 because it has skyshield anti-missile systems, which the 78s do not.
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf View Post
Interestingly, looks like she did a test flight yesterday. JP reports they're using 73 because it has skyshield anti-missile systems, which the 78s do not.
why do the 787s donít have anti-missile?
thatís weird
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Old Aug 28, 20, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by LY777 View Post
why do the 787s donít have anti-missile?
thatís weird
I thought so too. Guessing maybe it hasn't been certificated yet?
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Originally Posted by Alpha Golf View Post
I thought so too. Guessing maybe it hasn't been certificated yet?
It has to do with the composite materials used to construct the 787, the floor and frame's load-bearing ability for this type of system is an issue.
The 777's have the system, as well as the 747's had it too.
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Old Aug 28, 20, 12:07 pm
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El Al received permission for this flight to fly over Saudi Arabia.

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