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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by yosithezet
Well that changed faster than I’d have expected.

https://hosted.ap.org/lebanonvalleyn...over-its-skies



Still doesn’t help address LY flights to BOM and BKK.
I have every reason to expect that MBS and Modi are on the same page of letting LY go to India over Saudi airspace. My only caution on this statement is that it’s no longer a given that Saudi Arabia and the UAE remain on the same page forever after getting on the same page; but I think TLV-BOM over Saudi Arabia is very highly likely to be inevitable with a LY BOM service (and Arkia GOI and COK service) resumption.
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 4:14 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
...but I think TLV-BOM over Saudi Arabia is very highly likely to be inevitable with a LY BOM service (and Arkia GOI and COK service) resumption.
Netanyahu is already claiming that Israeli planes can fly to and from India and the far east through Saudi and Emirati airspace.

The Times of Israel:
Israeli leaders indicated they understood this to mean that Israeli flights can head to and from the Far East via Saudi Arabia and UAE, drastically reducing travel time.
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Originally Posted by TWA884
Netanyahu is already claiming that Israeli planes can fly to and from India and the far east through Saudi and Emirati airspace.
Right, only they allowed go overflight Jordan, Saudi, Emirates airspace, not for Qatar, Oman, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and Yemen.
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 5:41 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
Netanyahu is already claiming that Israeli planes can fly to and from India and the far east through Saudi and Emirati airspace.https://twitter.com/IsraeliPM/status...22326369636353
Netanyahu mentions MBZ there (and Kushner), but did not mention MBS. Leaving out a mention of MBS won’t have any point once it’s publicly clear that the country gave permission for LY to fly over Saudi airspace to India too without a stop.
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 5:59 pm
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Pretty much everyone knows MBS is in bed with them, but they'll still continue the charade by not being explicit for as long as they can.
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More good news for Bahrain. Bahrain to allow flights between Israel and UAE to its cross airspace.

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/...irspace-641061
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Old Sep 6, 2020 | 8:36 am
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As I was expecting, given what I know of the intricacies of the region.

Oman is already ok with Israeli planes going over, so it's just to be formalized for future flight operations. Qatar won't want to be the odd person out, whether Israel feels comfortable sending Israeli flights over Qatar or not, and will do the same as the UAE if Israel goes for it. Kuwait? I wouldn't be surprised if they go slower than the remaining GCC states to open to Israeli flights, but they are also likely to be least relevant -- among the GCC -- to LY and other Israeli flights for one or more reason.

A GCC country being open to Israeli flights in one or more way is very different than the GCC country being commercially viable for LY to have passenger flights serving the country. Code-sharing on Emirati flagged flights coming in the future for LY? Seems commercially more viable than LY passenger flights to the GCC countries.
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 3:29 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Kuwait? I wouldn't be surprised if they go slower than the remaining GCC states to open to Israeli flights, but they are also likely to be least relevant -- among the GCC -- to LY and other Israeli flights for one or more reason.
do kuwait airline still ban israeli passengers?
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Originally Posted by momoflyingguy
do kuwait airline still ban israeli passengers?
I don't currently know the status of the Kuwaiti law that prohibits Kuwaiti persons and companies from any and all commercial relations with Israelis and Israeli companies; but last year too it was still enforceable and being enforced, and I don't recall coming across anything suggesting that Kuwait repealed Kuwait's 1964 Law # 21.

The Kuwaiti government itself is sovereign and is not really subject to the those laws if it doesn't want to be; so if (a) the Kuwaiti government wanted LY or other Israeli flights to fly over Kuwait and (b) Israel was comfortable with LY or other Israeli passengers flights routinely going over that area -- something I consider highly unlikely at this point -- then LY and other Israeli passenger flights literally freely overflying could happen regardless of that Kuwaiti law.

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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I don't currently know the status of the Kuwaiti law that prohibits Kuwaiti persons and companies from any and all commercial relations with Israelis and Israeli companies; but last year too it was still enforceable and being enforced, and I don't recall coming across anything suggesting that Kuwait repealed Kuwait's 1964 Law # 21.

The Kuwaiti government itself is sovereign and is not really subject to the those laws if it doesn't want to be; so if (a) the Kuwaiti government wanted LY or other Israeli flights to fly over Kuwait and (b) Israel was comfortable with LY or other Israeli passengers flights routinely going over that area -- something I consider highly unlikely at this point -- then LY and other Israeli passenger flights literally freely overflying could happen regardless of that Kuwaiti law.
I'm finding it very hard to imagine a flight path that would take Israeli jets over Kuwait at all, given who Kuwait's immediate northern and eastern neighbors are.
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Israir is looking to commence flight operations for TLV-DXB starting in early October.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Israir is looking to commence flight operations for TLV-DXB starting in early October.
Since I know nothing at all about Israir - do they have any interline agreements with other airlines, or would this just be point-to-point?

This would be really interesting if they linked up with Emirates to sell flights eastward.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
Israir is looking to commence flight operations for TLV-DXB starting in early October.
Wow! No doubt! I am so surprised! This is first-ever nonstop flight from TLV-DXB. Hope this route is doing well. They should be so successful flight.
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Originally Posted by M60_to_LGA
Since I know nothing at all about Israir - do they have any interline agreements with other airlines, or would this just be point-to-point?

This would be really interesting if they linked up with Emirates to sell flights eastward.
I have never heard of Israir having interline agreements. In fact, as far as I know, most of their flights are charters.
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 10:52 pm
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Originally Posted by M60_to_LGA
Since I know nothing at all about Israir - do they have any interline agreements with other airlines, or would this just be point-to-point?

This would be really interesting if they linked up with Emirates to sell flights eastward.
Ive only seen them to do point-to-point service, whether for charter package tourists or otherwise. It seems that the Dubai service is for that and not something more global.
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