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mbloch Oct 21, 2018 6:49 am

Last Monday was L2

Fly613 Oct 21, 2018 6:50 am


Originally Posted by mbloch (Post 30338998)
Last Monday was L2

Thanks.

elal767 Oct 28, 2018 3:42 am

LY 787 vs CX 350
 
Hey,
just did two legs back to back on LY 787 and CX 350 in Y, here are my impressions -
- 075 to HKG was about 60% full on a Saturday night in Y, but completely booked in C and Premium Y, even no preferred seats available a month in advance
- LY service was good, food below average, the IFE is nice but it’s already a bit sluggish, 3 years from now it will seem as outdated and terrible as the 747 IFE does today. Due to the low load factor, everybody in Y got a comfortable few hours of quality sleep - much appreciated. Seats are good even for a big guy like me, but it might be tougher if every seat is booked. Overall not splendid but way better than expected considering I avoid LY on long-haul and do LCC hopping in Europe with everything but LY
- CX A359 was dirty and worn. Crew attentive, efficient and extremely polite. KSML ex-HKG was Hermolis and much better than on LY. Bathrooms filthy after a few hours, IFE is amazing and slightly better than LY. Inflight wi-fi is great, 13usd for the entire flight and rock-solid (actually using it right now)
- premium Y in LY is a joke compared to CX according to my impression

Altogether LY was better than expected. Quite possible that the new A350-1000 they use to TLV will be in a better shape than this A359. Not sure which one I would go with next time, if you happen to catch a flight with a light Y load, long haul on LYs 787 might not be all that bad. Ah, and don’t get me started on those LY 787 C seats...

Fly613 Oct 28, 2018 2:08 pm


Originally Posted by elal767 (Post 30364612)
. Ah, and don’t get me started on those LY 787 C seats...

Thanks for the review!
actually I would love to get your thoughts on those C seats :)

Innocent Abroad Oct 28, 2018 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by elal767 (Post 30364612)
CX A359 was dirty and worn.

Dirty I can imagine (although a real shame and from my experience on CX an exception) but worn for a (relatively) new aircraft?

LY777 Oct 28, 2018 11:54 pm


Originally Posted by Innocent Abroad (Post 30366177)
Dirty I can imagine (although a real shame and from my experience on CX an exception) but worn for a (relatively) new aircraft?

I am also surprised to read that

elal767 Oct 29, 2018 6:27 am

Yep, same here. The IFE units and remote control's plastics were already visibly tired and scratched up. Plastic cover for bulkhead fell off during t/o and exposed a bunch of cables. Overhead baggage storage units all scratched up and dirty. Overall surprising for a relatively new jet.

2035 Oct 29, 2018 9:41 am


Originally Posted by elal767 (Post 30364612)
Hey,
just did two legs back to back on LY 787 and CX 350 in Y, here are my impressions -
- 075 to HKG was about 60% full on a Saturday night in Y, but completely booked in C and Premium Y, even no preferred seats available a month in advance
- LY service was good, food below average, the IFE is nice but it’s already a bit sluggish, 3 years from now it will seem as outdated and terrible as the 747 IFE does today. Due to the low load factor, everybody in Y got a comfortable few hours of quality sleep - much appreciated. Seats are good even for a big guy like me, but it might be tougher if every seat is booked. Overall not splendid but way better than expected considering I avoid LY on long-haul and do LCC hopping in Europe with everything but LY
- CX A359 was dirty and worn. Crew attentive, efficient and extremely polite. KSML ex-HKG was Hermolis and much better than on LY. Bathrooms filthy after a few hours, IFE is amazing and slightly better than LY. Inflight wi-fi is great, 13usd for the entire flight and rock-solid (actually using it right now)
- premium Y in LY is a joke compared to CX according to my impression

Altogether LY was better than expected. Quite possible that the new A350-1000 they use to TLV will be in a better shape than this A359. Not sure which one I would go with next time, if you happen to catch a flight with a light Y load, long haul on LYs 787 might not be all that bad. Ah, and don’t get me started on those LY 787 C seats...

Not sure I agree.
I found premium on LY 787 better than CX A350 - preferred the seat, service was excellent, and KSML much better than CX (especially ex-TLV where I received a regular Y KSML). I also flight timing on LY for TLV-HKG leg much better.

tedcruz Oct 29, 2018 1:49 pm

The Hermolis KSML's are the best KSML's. LY always provide there own food no matter from where you fly.

2035 Oct 30, 2018 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by tedcruz (Post 30369769)
The Hermolis KSML's are the best KSML's. LY always provide there own food no matter from where you fly.

Personally I preferred the fresh LY premium/business class food to the Hermolis stuff which had been frozen and was served on CX from Tel Aviv. Plus you have several choices for each meal.
Hermolis fresh meals (mainly from LHR and EU short-haul) are excellent.

CX premium economy kosher from TLV was appalling.

tedcruz Oct 30, 2018 2:28 pm

Each to their own...
I even know someone who likes Stogel.

mbloch Oct 31, 2018 2:01 am

ElAl's 7th 787 (4X-EDH) has landed this morning in Tel Aviv

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/4x-edh

elal767 Oct 31, 2018 5:57 am

Also, in other 787 news, MIA has been switched over.

ELAL Nov 1, 2018 2:29 am


Originally Posted by mbloch (Post 30376003)
ElAl's 7th 787 (4X-EDH) has landed this morning in Tel Aviv

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/4x-edh

Why have they skipped EDG and gone to EDH?

LY777 Nov 1, 2018 8:57 am


Originally Posted by ELAL (Post 30380004)
Why have they skipped EDG and gone to EDH?

The LY 747 Freighter which crashed in AMS carried the letter "G" in its registration. Then, LY decided that their future a/c will no longer carry the "G" letter in their registration.


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