OT: Ramon airport is being built in the Negev
#46
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As long as the new hotels are offering the same low-level service at a high price (including lack of proper dining options over the weekend) - no. And even if that changes - hotels are not enough.
#47
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As for domestic ETH pax - they value frequency to TLV/SDV most. Size does not matter for a 40 minutes flight - and in any case, ETH is capable of 737/320. Nothing bigger will come in the foreseeable future to ETM - the demand does not exist.
Again - let us not kid ourselves with small things that matter only to aviation enthusiasts/very frequent fliers - this is a real estate deal, with unclear beneficiaries.
#48
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I think everyone got your point about the real estate deal after your first post, but you are posting in a forum full of aviation enthusiasts, aren't you?
#49
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It is marginal for tourists. Think of the airports in Greece for instance (HER, KLX, etc.). It does not matter - as long as the place itself offers a wide variety of activities, beautiful nature, great food, etc.. Eilat offers little of this, so a nicer airport 15 minutes drive closer - is marginal. It will not bring more tourists and will not change the experience of those who are coming in any significant way.
As for domestic ETH pax - they value frequency to TLV/SDV most. Size does not matter for a 40 minutes flight - and in any case, ETH is capable of 737/320. Nothing bigger will come in the foreseeable future to ETM - the demand does not exist.
Again - let us not kid ourselves with small things that matter only to aviation enthusiasts/very frequent fliers - this is a real estate deal, with unclear beneficiaries.
As for domestic ETH pax - they value frequency to TLV/SDV most. Size does not matter for a 40 minutes flight - and in any case, ETH is capable of 737/320. Nothing bigger will come in the foreseeable future to ETM - the demand does not exist.
Again - let us not kid ourselves with small things that matter only to aviation enthusiasts/very frequent fliers - this is a real estate deal, with unclear beneficiaries.
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They are low-cost budget hotels. A few, and construction has already begun on 2 of them.
#51
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Part of the rationale for building ETM was supposedly an airport that can be an official IFR "alternate" to TLV in cases of bad weather. Right now, a 777 coming from London, for example, would have to land in Cyprus or Jordan in case of bad weather/closure of TLV as the runway at ETH isn't long enough and VDA can't handle that many people. Apparently the new runway at ETM is long enough to accommodate all aircraft types. If ETH is capable of a 737/320, why are none of the foreign carriers that fly those types to VDA flying them to ETH instead? I live near TLV and can't imagine myself driving/busing to ETM to fly but there are times that it could come in handy - sometimes over the holidays, the prices to TLV from Europe are insane so I hope that ETM will provide an outlet for the budget conscious during that time.
ETM could work if Pesakh is early, but not for Succot.
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Neighbors of mine just came back from a trip to Europe. They made the 3 hour drive to and from VDA in order to benefit from an a really cheap LCC fare. So there you have it.
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Does anyone know how easy it is to get from the parking to the terminal?
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It is free and easy:
http://www.iaa.gov.il/he-IL/airports...7%95%D7%AA.pdf
http://www.iaa.gov.il/he-IL/airports...7%95%D7%AA.pdf
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I suppose anyone who lives in Be'er Sheva is more or less indifferent between ETM and TLV so overall will be good for the South. Now if only they'd expand the airport in Haifa.
#58
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The current hotels are not good at all. I can only imagine how poor the low-cost ones will be. And still no improvement in Eilat's offering of attractions, quality of beaches, restaurants, not to mention the fact that everything is dead on Friday nights and Saturdays. Not an alternative to other Mediterranean resorts and cities in summer, and a very poor alternative for winter time.
#59
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And that surely justifies the investment....
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#60
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Part of the rationale for building ETM was supposedly an airport that can be an official IFR "alternate" to TLV in cases of bad weather. Right now, a 777 coming from London, for example, would have to land in Cyprus or Jordan in case of bad weather/closure of TLV as the runway at ETH isn't long enough and VDA can't handle that many people. Apparently the new runway at ETM is long enough to accommodate all aircraft types. If ETH is capable of a 737/320, why are none of the foreign carriers that fly those types to VDA flying them to ETH instead? I live near TLV and can't imagine myself driving/busing to ETM to fly but there are times that it could come in handy - sometimes over the holidays, the prices to TLV from Europe are insane so I hope that ETM will provide an outlet for the budget conscious during that time.
Foreign carriers don't make it to ETH because Israel prevents them. Not because ETH cannot handle 1-2 daily 737/320s ( there is no demand for more than that in the foreseeable future).
Again, the fact that some times some Israelis will shave off 20$ from airfare is not a reason to build a new airport. ETM will not offer significant improvement and will not bring more tourists.
And don't forget there is still talk on another( useless ) airport in Nebatim or Ramat David.