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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 10:10 am
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Anyone familiar with Hawaiian beef from the Big Island? I was driving around the area above Waimea a few weeks ago and there are some truly massive ranches and a lot of grass fed beef. I was not able to eat any of it however, and don't know if it is marketed locally.
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by hat attack
Thanks for your quick reply. Since I thought all beef (unless eaten less than 12 hours after slaughter) had to be aged, you got me doing a little research. Apparently Kobe beef is a dry aged beef... I also found that only beef still on the bone can be dry aged.
As I understand it, wet "aging" is something that happens by default when beef is shipped in vacuum sealed packages. So, yes, most beef sold in the US will be "aged".

One significant benefit of dry aging is, well, drying. The beef loses moisture, which is a good thing for good steaks. This can be done with smaller pieces and less time at home. OTOH, aging for 14-21 days, which is necessary for the meat to tenderize, runs a much higher risk of things going wrong (excessive growth of unwanted life), especially when you age in your own refrigerator.

I believe you looked in the wrong place though. I know of no problem dry aging boneless meat. I do it, though I limit my aging to less than a week.

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 5:59 pm
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Interesting topic...
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 8:25 am
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The worst beef in the world is British, tough and cooked to the consistency of a shoe's sole.

Many years ago we discovered the delicious taste and texture of North American beef and even went on a Texan steak holiday - a trip especially to eat beef. We were asked by the humourless US immigration offficer what was the purpose of our visit and when I said steak holiday got a very strange look before I offered an explanation and Texan hospitality emerged.

But we then realised that Texans wanting good beef went to Argentina, so off we went too. Yes, its very good but can get the occasional poorer steak. Ate steak every day for three weeks and could have carried on longer. Back pain got better too!

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 11:59 am
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Talking Beef Recommendations in Buenos Aires

Just thought I'd share my recommendations in case anyone happens to be in Buenos Aires with a hankering for our homegrown organic beef.

1. Cabana las Lilas, priciest and very touristy in Puerto Madero, but it's sooooo friggin good. Especially all the free sides they give out.
2. La Escondida, pricey, not as touristy in Palermo, with unlimited salad bar. I recommend the bacon-wrapped ojo de bife.
3. La Cabrera, pricey and touristy in Palermo, with lots of side garnishes.
4. Social la Lechuza, reasonably-priced, very local--almost no English spoken--and plain homestyle Argentine deliciousness.

Anyone else have suggestions or thoughts?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by mochilerainbsas
Anyone else have suggestions or thoughts?
Sure!! You left off La Brigada (San Telmo)!!

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mochilerainbsas

Anyone else have suggestions or thoughts?
Rio Alba is consistently good
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 6:33 pm
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Originally Posted by mochilerainbsas
1. Cabana las Lilas, priciest and very touristy in Puerto Madero, but it's sooooo friggin good. Especially all the free sides they give out.
Mrs. ralfp and I both thought it was nice, not great, but a great value. Perhaps the fact that they did not sell wine when we were there (day before elections) explains both impressions. If you visit their web page you can see their wide selection of semen.

I liked Munich Recoleta a lot, but perhaps that's because it was my first real food in 18 hours or so.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Greenpen
The worst beef in the world is British, tough and cooked to the consistency of a shoe's sole.
Try visiting Asia.

Originally Posted by Greenpen
Many years ago we discovered the delicious taste and texture of North American beef and even went on a Texan steak holiday - a trip especially to eat beef.
Is it me, or are taste and texture somewhat mutually exclusive at the "high end" of beef?

As an aside, a Google search turned up this interesting article: http://www.slate.com/id/2152674/
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 7:37 pm
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Originally Posted by ralfp

As an aside, a Google search turned up this interesting article: http://www.slate.com/id/2152674/
I agree with that article. But then again, I don't like super marbled beef. I never order a rib-eye, and I cut ALL visible fat off my meat. I'd much rather save my fat allotment for some good hashbrowns and biscuits w/sausage gravy or some such. I have never once really enjoyed a steak in a high-end steakhouse.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 10:45 pm
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Originally Posted by braslvr
...I'd much rather save my fat allotment for some good hashbrowns and biscuits w/sausage gravy or some such...
Now you are talking! The heck with steak, breakfast is the most important meal, and the pig rules at that time of day.
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Originally Posted by uclabruin82
Kobe beef in Japan is by far the best I have ever had. It is like eating beef flavored melted-fat, simply amazing.
Wait till you try Matsusaka beef which is is great as well (not very well-known outside of Japan though, I think). Many rate it to be even better than Kobe beef.

Mmmmm being able to eat fillet steak without using knife and fork (i.e. soft enough for being able to cut it with chopsticks).
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I prefer the Brazilian over the Argentinian beef, but could also be because I really did not have time to eat the beef down there. Was there 2 nights and ate a Lechon feast one night and the other was some tiny restaurant in a very small town of Freyere.

Prefer the Brazilian beef as the best in the world...taste is so much better and after a full meal -- one does not need to sleep like with a lot of the US beef.
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