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Originally Posted by JayhawkCO
(Post 9019467)
Clearly you haven't had me wait on you :D. For the record, I'm in the industry and here are my standards:
Here is mine. Over the top,remember my preferences,fights for me in the kitchen-25% max Very good,makes me want to come back and have them wait on me again.18-20% Good 16%-18% Average 15% always. Rude/Poor/Dumb 0% and the loss of my buisness. All of this is on the pre tax total |
Originally Posted by bigguyinpasadena
(Post 9020884)
Good way to insure that this sort of highway robbery continues and that poor service gets rewarded.
Here is mine. Over the top,remember my preferences,fights for me in the kitchen-25% max Very good,makes me want to come back and have them wait on me again.18-20% Good 16%-18% Average 15% always. Rude/Poor/Dumb 0% and the loss of my buisness. All of this is on the pre tax total On Saturday we lunched at a restaurant across the street from a major museum and parked in the restaurant lot. Before our meal was over, the waiter asked if we were going on to the museum. I told him we were. He told me that he could give me a card to put in my car window so that we could stay parked where we were with no problem while we went to the museum. Obviously his tip grew! |
Originally Posted by JayhawkCO
(Post 9019467)
Clearly you haven't had me wait on you :D. For the record, I'm in the industry and here are my standards:
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Originally Posted by oldpenny16
(Post 9021546)
until I read this thread I hadn't considered the pre-tax, post-tax issue
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30% tips?? 18% tips?? Jeeezz... I am in the wrong business!!
10% maximum this side of the water, and only if the service is good. Some restaurants do the "a gratuity of [12-15%] is added for parties of x or more Infact, I'm really p*ssed off with some Hilton hotels adding a £1 charity donation to my bill. That is absolutely out of order as you feel like a tight-arse telling them no. Which of course I have to as it is not my money. And finally [rant] I hear that when you add a gratuity on your CC it almost never reaches the server! [/rant] |
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Originally Posted by JayhawkCO
(Post 9019467)
18% if you don't know what you're doing but I eventually get my stuff
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Originally Posted by uncertaintraveler
(Post 9021700)
Tipping should be completely disallowed here, and all service charges should be included in the price of each menu item. Doing so would be easier for everyone: the customer, the employer, the server, and the tax-man.
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Some of us act like tipping somebody is akin to taking the proverbial "pound of flesh" off our bodies! "Whaaaaa". Crack me up.
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Almost all of my tipping is out of my own pocket-I do not get reimbursed for tips even on buisness expenditures.
The Only exception is my New Years tip to service providers for the estate-those I expense. But the others add up to over $500 a year,excluding dining on my own time. So that is a bit out of my flesh actually. |
Originally Posted by bigguyinpasadena
(Post 9022237)
Almost all of my tipping is out of my own pocket-I do not get reimbursed for tips even on buisness expenditures.
The Only exception is my New Years tip to service providers for the estate-those I expense. But the others add up to over $500 a year,excluding dining on my own time. So that is a bit out of my flesh actually. I always enjoy reading your posts! Aloha, and Bon Appetit! |
Originally Posted by JayhawkCO
(Post 9016707)
Actually the gratuity is before tax, so the server only gets about 16.4% at my restaurant. And that's before we pay tip out to pay for the hosts, bartenders, etc., so that knocks it down to 13.4%. So wait...18% is more than enough (assuming good service)? :rolleyes: Don't even get me started on the $2.13/hr.
Chris There are a few states where wait staff now make the full minimum wage plus tips. I believe CA is one of those states, which makes this sort event even more profitable if it wasn't just an honest mistake. |
Originally Posted by bigguyinpasadena
(Post 9020884)
Good way to insure that this sort of highway robbery continues and that poor service gets rewarded.
Here is mine. Over the top,remember my preferences,fights for me in the kitchen-25% max Very good,makes me want to come back and have them wait on me again.18-20% Good 16%-18% Average 15% always. Rude/Poor/Dumb 0% and the loss of my buisness. All of this is on the pre tax total As far as tipping on the tax: why would you reward service based upon a tax added by the state of______(fill in the blank)? How did the state of _____make your service/food/entertainment any better? If you tip the waiter on the tax you're simply rewarding him/her for being a tax collector. That's just stupid. |
I'm fine if not everyone tips how I do. I'm in the industry and it's kind of an unwritten rule that servers take care of their own. But for all that say "I don't think we should tip at all" or "It's not my problem they don't pay you enough" or "It's not my fault you tip out", etc. If society deemed it necessary, they restaurant could just increase the cost of all of their items 20% and not have any more tipping. That way I actually get a paycheck and you all don't feel awkward about leaving extra gratuity. Your $30 steak now costs $36, but you don't have to tip on it. Would this make everyone happier? I wager to say everyone would complain about the price increase just as much as they've complained about over-tipping in this thread. The way we currently have it, at least you're allowed to escalate or depreciate the tip as you see fit based on service. If you just followed the price increase model, there would be little to no motivation for good service. You think you get unenthusiastic service at your local Chili's now, imagine if they were going to make the same thing if they gave you crappy service.
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Originally Posted by uncertaintraveler
(Post 9021700)
1) Paying (or "tipping") up to 1/4th of my bill simply because someone did their job is mind-boggling to me.
2) Paying (or "tipping") 18% for what I would consider to be poor service is equally mind-boggling. 3) Paying (or "tipping") 10% for what I would consider to be horrible service is simply crazy. Do you actually receive tips based on these sorts of percentages??? If so, good for you, but I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't. 1st table: party of two (probably business colleagues) $55 tab, $9 tip 2nd table: party of three (three businessmen) $127 tab, $25 tip 3rd table: party of two (couple) $44 tab, $8 tip 4th table: party of three (family) $78 tab, $15 tip 5th table: party of two (business colleagues) $70 tab, $20 tip 6th table: party of nine (business group) $320 tab, $55 auto-gratuity, no extra tip This was a particularly good percentage night as you can see, but I would like to think that there's apparently a larger group of people who tip like me then maybe the select respondents in this thread think there are. (As an interesting side note and back to the original topic at hand, the auto-gratuity was the worst tip percentage-wise I had tonight. :)) Chris |
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