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Madone59 May 25, 2017 9:07 am


Originally Posted by exerda (Post 28356032)
Just couldn't bring myself to enter the Pappy 25 lottery given it would cost $1800 if I won...

I'm sure. Neither could I, that is crazy money for a bottle of booze.

mystified May 25, 2017 2:03 pm

It's kind of crazy how Pappy is so expensive. I've had a sip of it. While I think it's delicious, but for the price some folks pay, there are other options.

guller May 31, 2017 1:17 pm

Pappy 25 is going for 10k on the secondary market right now. Ouch!

exerda Jun 1, 2017 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by guller (Post 28384213)
Pappy 25 is going for 10k on the secondary market right now. Ouch!

No booze is worth $10k FWIW.

But watch Bieber buy a bottle or two and drink it mixed with coke. :eek:

I'd have entered the lottery just for the chance at the secondary market if I didn't think VA ABC had recorded the serial #s and would actually go after any winners reselling it.

Flying Machine Jun 1, 2017 9:17 pm

Is anyone drinking a Burbon that they like and would like to share their tasting notes. All the banter about Pappy is well taken but I would like to learn about others as well. I posted about Eagle Rare and it went unoticed :)

DSI Jun 2, 2017 7:17 am

Plenty of wines with larger distributions cost more than pappy 25. It would be great it a bar sold pappy 25 jello shots--would result in lots of advertising!

So VA would go after someone if you won the lottery and then sold it three years later if you moved to a different state? guess I'm surprised.

phillygold Jun 5, 2017 6:04 pm

Per Food and Wine magazine, here are the 25 most important bourbons ever made. Note, Makers Mark came in #1 .

http://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails...vored-bourbons

Flying Machine Jun 5, 2017 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by phillygold (Post 28407530)
Per Food and Wine magazine, here are the 25 most important bourbons ever made. Note, Makers Mark came in #1 .

http://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails...vored-bourbons

Thanks for posting, nice read. After touring several on the Burbon Trail, I remember many of the names mentioned. Now just have to tatse them all..

FlyingDoctorwu Jun 7, 2017 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by Flying Machine (Post 28355845)
I'm a fan of Eagle Rare. Purchased (4) 6 packs a year ago and gave away most of them for Holiday gifts. Down to my last 2 bottles.. Time to stock up again..

Great choice here... try to find a store that did a barrel and stock up. I love Old Weller Antique barrel picks... $25 a bottle for a 6-7 yr old wheater? Delicious! I typically buy a case or two a year and drink/give it away....

FDW

FlyingDoctorwu Jun 7, 2017 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by phillygold (Post 28407530)
Per Food and Wine magazine, here are the 25 most important bourbons ever made. Note, Makers Mark came in #1 .

http://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails...vored-bourbons

The most important bourbon on that list for me was Willet Family Estate. it introduced me to single barrel bourbon. To barrel strength bourbon. and to the rarity and uniqueness of each Willett....

My very first bottle was a Shoppers Vineyard pick in either 2008 or 2009... I didn't know what I was buying but it was amazing delicious with a great mouthfeel... amazing finish as well.. I wouldn't clean the glass out to get a great nose the next day... I thought all WIllettts were like this till I tried to track down my next bottle... to this day I still dream of this bottle....

FDW

Duke787 Jun 7, 2017 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by phillygold (Post 28407530)
Per Food and Wine magazine, here are the 25 most important bourbons ever made. Note, Makers Mark came in #1 .

http://www.foodandwine.com/cocktails...vored-bourbons


Weller is the top on the list of what I've tried (never had Pappy) and I actually agree with the Makers Mark #1 . It was the conduit from Jack & Coke in college to entering the world of Bourbon (and eventually scotch).

Recently been enjoying Baby Saz - hopefully one of these days I'll get my hands on the 18 year old to compare

BamaVol Jul 3, 2017 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by mystified (Post 28359354)
It's kind of crazy how Pappy is so expensive. I've had a sip of it. While I think it's delicious, but for the price some folks pay, there are other options.

BamaVol Jr #1 texted me yesterday from an Irish pub in Eugene Oregon. He and his wife were splitting a double pour of Pappy 18. At $87, he proclaimed it "worth the price" and also remarked that he would likely never do that again. Same opinion. There are better values although probably not better bourbons. He followed it with a glass of Blanton's, not normally a disappointment, but it was this time.

BamaVol Jr #3 gifted me with a bottle of Whistlepig rye and I accepted delivery of a set of 4 Glencairn tasting glasses this weekend so it seemed an appropriate time to open the bottle. I liked it a whole lot and will be sorry when the bottle is empty, which could be very soon. I cannot believe it's 100% proof.

exerda Jul 3, 2017 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 28515711)
BamaVol Jr #3 gifted me with a bottle of Whistlepig rye and I accepted delivery of a set of 4 Glencairn tasting glasses this weekend so it seemed an appropriate time to open the bottle. I liked it a whole lot and will be sorry when the bottle is empty, which could be very soon. I cannot believe it's 100% proof.

The "standard" Whistlepig (10 year)? I do admit it's one of my favorite ryes.

I used VA ABC's once-a-year 20% off coupon a couple of weeks back to get their Old World Madeira Finish 12 year rye, which at $120 I'd never spring for without the discount. It's quite tasty, though.

Duke787 Aug 9, 2017 9:19 pm

Weller 107 for me tonight - never disappoints

thelark Aug 10, 2017 12:36 pm


Originally Posted by BamaVol (Post 28515711)
BamaVol Jr #1 texted me yesterday from an Irish pub in Eugene Oregon. He and his wife were splitting a double pour of Pappy 18. At $87, he proclaimed it "worth the price" and also remarked that he would likely never do that again. Same opinion. There are better values although probably not better bourbons. He followed it with a glass of Blanton's, not normally a disappointment, but it was this time.

BamaVol Jr #3 gifted me with a bottle of Whistlepig rye and I accepted delivery of a set of 4 Glencairn tasting glasses this weekend so it seemed an appropriate time to open the bottle. I liked it a whole lot and will be sorry when the bottle is empty, which could be very soon. I cannot believe it's 100% proof.

paying anything for pappy 18 is too much, because it doesn't exist.

BamaVol Aug 10, 2017 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28673323)
paying anything for pappy 18 is too much, because it doesn't exist.

I believe you. He might have fat fingered the keyboard and meant to type 15. I also imagine he had already had a bit to drink. I mean, who pays $87 for a double shot of bourbon if they're sober?

FlyingDoctorwu Aug 10, 2017 1:17 pm


Originally Posted by Duke787 (Post 28670401)
Weller 107 for me tonight - never disappoints

Love love love Weller 107...


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28673323)
paying anything for pappy 18 is too much, because it doesn't exist.

I'ld pay $87 for a pour of the 18.... There are a couple of one off bottling of 18 yo van winkle... though I'm not sure they've ever born the Pappy name.

Van Winkle Special Reserve 18yr, Binny’s Single Barrel, 121.6pf – 2003

https://whiskeyid.com/wp-content/upl...rrel_front.jpg

Van Winkle Family Reserve 18yr, Park Ave Single Barrel, 2003

https://whiskeyid.com/wp-content/upl..._ave_front.jpg

Old Rip Van Winkle Blue Smoke 18yr, 92.6pf, ~2003

https://whiskeyid.com/wp-content/upl...e_18_front.jpg

thelark Aug 10, 2017 1:31 pm

You and I both know that those would be going for >$87/oz and don't dare call vwsr or orvw pappy ;)

FlyingDoctorwu Aug 11, 2017 11:52 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28673524)
You and I both know that those would be going for >$87/oz and don't dare call vwsr or orvw pappy ;)

Touché

torcross Aug 14, 2017 11:12 am

This 18 Y.O Van Winkle for Binny's (as shown above) sold for £8800 at Scotch Whisky Auctions last year. With commission and VAT that would be £9700

https://www.scotchwhiskyauctions.com...r-binnys-75cl/

That would make it £646.66 for a 50ML pour.

exerda Aug 14, 2017 7:40 pm

Was having some from bottles I hadn't tried in a while... realized how much I love Noah's Mill. Need to run across the border to MD and find another bottle now.

tentseller Aug 16, 2017 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by torcross (Post 28688600)
This 18 Y.O Van Winkle for Binny's (as shown above) sold for £8800 at Scotch Whisky Auctions last year. With commission and VAT that would be £9700

https://www.scotchwhiskyauctions.com...r-binnys-75cl/

That would make it £646.66 for a 50ML pour.

Before markup by the pouring establishment. :D

jackal Aug 28, 2017 6:47 pm

Had a half pour each of WhistlePig Rye and Jefferson’s Reserve Ocean Aged with dinner tonight. Both quite good and of course very different, but I think I preferred the WhistlePig.

They had Elijah Craig 18, but I passed based on recommendations here that it’s over-aged.

Other high-rye options from their tasting serieswere 1792 Full Proof, Angel’s Envy, Blanton’s Gold Edition, Blanton’s Special Reserve, Booker’s Bluegrass, Four Roses Single Barrel, and Old Bones 10 Year. On the high wheat side, they had Garrison Bros. Texas, Old 55, and Willett Pot. Hope I didn’t massively miss out on anything I should have sampled!

darthbimmer Aug 29, 2017 10:30 pm

Woodford Reserve is my mainstay among bourbons. I like its rich, sweet, and complex flavor. I've tried Woodford's Double Oak; I'm not a fan. It's too tart. Woodford Reserve Rye is okay. The basic Reserve is high-rye already, so the Rye is like that but moreso. ;)

Lately I've been drinking a bottle of Elijah Craig. At 94 proof it's like getting popped in the kisser. A bit of water or a small amount of ice smooths it out. It's grown on me over time (2/3 of the way through the bottle) but I still prefer Woodford Reserve.

Reds2011 Aug 30, 2017 4:26 am

Managed to pick up a bottle of Makers Mark Cask Strength on my travels. 111.3 proof. After my earlier foray into cask bourbons being Bookers, I found this a big step down but after a couple of days it's growing on me. Nice mouth feel and a long finish.

Also snagged a bottle of Woodford Reserve Masters Collection, Brandy Cask Finish. A great illustration of the perils of buying without access to reviews (roaming data not enabled on the phone). A decent enough bourbon with a nicer nose and palate taste than standard WR, but not worth double the price (luckily I got it for about $80 against the normal $100).

FlyingDoctorwu Aug 31, 2017 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by jackal (Post 28747885)
Had a half pour each of WhistlePig Rye and Jefferson’s Reserve Ocean Aged with dinner tonight. Both quite good and of course very different, but I think I preferred the WhistlePig.

They had Elijah Craig 18, but I passed based on recommendations here that it’s over-aged.

Other high-rye options from their tasting serieswere 1792 Full Proof, Angel’s Envy, Blanton’s Gold Edition, Blanton’s Special Reserve, Booker’s Bluegrass, Four Roses Single Barrel, and Old Bones 10 Year. On the high wheat side, they had Garrison Bros. Texas, Old 55, and Willett Pot. Hope I didn’t massively miss out on anything I should have sampled!

Were you over in Europe? Blantons Gold and Blantons Special Reserve are not sold in the USA.... might be worth trying....

FDW

thelark Sep 23, 2017 10:12 pm

Picked up KY Owl rye and it’s drinking really nicely. Can’t wait to see how it is after being open a bit.

FlyingDoctorwu Sep 25, 2017 4:32 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28851729)
Picked up KY Owl rye and it’s drinking really nicely. Can’t wait to see how it is after being open a bit.

where are you located these days? I don't think that the KY Owl is being distributed our ways....

fdw

thelark Sep 26, 2017 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 28855515)
where are you located these days? I don't think that the KY Owl is being distributed our ways....

fdw

fdw I'm now in dfw :)

FlyingDoctorwu Sep 27, 2017 3:07 am


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28862501)
fdw I'm now in dfw :)

Ahh I see what you did there....

Shame you left.. Schawan just released a Four Roses and Old Weller Antique barrel....

FDW

DSI Sep 28, 2017 5:36 pm

Shawan! Love those guys there

thelark Sep 28, 2017 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingDoctorwu (Post 28863676)
Ahh I see what you did there....

Shame you left.. Schawan just released a Four Roses and Old Weller Antique barrel....

FDW

dang they usually have great picks too - would've grabbed a case of OWA. assuming it's 4rbp - what's the mash bill?

FlyingDoctorwu Sep 29, 2017 4:03 am


Originally Posted by DSI (Post 28871322)
Shawan! Love those guys there

Yep me too


Originally Posted by thelark (Post 28871568)
dang they usually have great picks too - would've grabbed a case of OWA. assuming it's 4rbp - what's the mash bill?

They were limiting sales to 1 bottle per person.. too many people I guess buying cases in the past...

4R is OESK. 9 years 9 months bottled at 110 proof

FDW

Madone59 Oct 9, 2017 8:00 am

Just changed jobs - boss has several empty Pappy bottles on a shelf in his office.

Stay tuned :)

Duke787 Oct 9, 2017 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Madone59 (Post 28910781)
Just changed jobs - boss has several empty Pappy bottles on a shelf in his office.

Stay tuned :)

Still in search of my first Pappy or BTAC - hoping to find some success in NC this year or perhaps I'll splurge at the DL JFK T4 SkyClub during an upcoming 3 hour layover before a TATL Y flight.

Madone59 Oct 9, 2017 9:01 am


Originally Posted by Duke787 (Post 28910904)
Still in search of my first Pappy or BTAC - hoping to find some success in NC this year or perhaps I'll splurge at the DL JFK T4 SkyClub during an upcoming 3 hour layover before a TATL Y flight.

Don't splurge in the Sky Club. JW Marriott Desert Springs in Phoenix has a huge stash. Both the bartender and restaurant manager confirmed they have a "direct line" to the source so they sell it at a legitimately fair price. Just go there for a weekend get away.

FlyingDoctorwu Oct 10, 2017 2:40 am


Originally Posted by Duke787 (Post 28910904)
Still in search of my first Pappy or BTAC - hoping to find some success in NC this year or perhaps I'll splurge at the DL JFK T4 SkyClub during an upcoming 3 hour layover before a TATL Y flight.

If you're ever in Baltimore give me a call.. might be able to work something out..

FDW

thelark Oct 11, 2017 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by Madone59 (Post 28910781)
Just changed jobs - boss has several empty Pappy bottles on a shelf in his office.

Stay tuned :)

please don’t sell them - or drill a hole in the bottom if you do. Too many fakes.

DetailsIM Oct 30, 2017 1:06 pm

Picked this up this past weekend at the local Total Wine. They only received in 2 bottles.

No clue how it is but I figured it be a cool bottle to have.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4465/3...3059f290_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4462/3...3655581e_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4506/3...e4dbf5ea_b.jpg

Lkeade Oct 30, 2017 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 28995370)
Picked this up this past weekend at the local Total Wine. They only received in 2 bottles.

No clue how it is but I figured it be a cool bottle to have.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4465/3...3059f290_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4462/3...3655581e_b.jpg

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4506/3...e4dbf5ea_b.jpg

Thank you for posting this. We were just at Four Roses last week when we did the Bourbon Trail and learned about their barrel strength bourbon. As four roses is one of my husband's favorite, I was able to contact our local BevMo and they are holding a bottle for me. It will make a nice gift.


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