Annoying ordering habits
#16
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Not about ordering.... but...
My pet peeve: people who take the opportunity of eating in a restaurant to make themselves feel superior by treating the staff as "servants." I was raised to always treat people the way I would like to be treated, and that includes wait staff in restaurants (my mother was a waitress, among other "careers").
So, if I am treated well, they should be treated as well or even better.
If I am not treated well, a word to the management is in order.
As to my fellow diners, the ones who are boorish, rude, demanding or insensitive are never asked to join me for a meal again!
So, if I am treated well, they should be treated as well or even better.
If I am not treated well, a word to the management is in order.
As to my fellow diners, the ones who are boorish, rude, demanding or insensitive are never asked to join me for a meal again!
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I know that we can all recount stories but as cabin crew we have plenty of charm school alumni to make our day just that bit special. I find that a common habit is never to look at the person who is taking your order, and talk at them - who are they when all said and done?
As for the worst exhibition that we ever had on board - and this one always stands out - was the couple that we had coming in one night on quite a long haul flight. They were in First Class and had not so much handed rather than waved their coats at the crew member for her to collect. I forget what went on prior to take off - but when we reached altitude was got straight out and the drinks orders were taken. I came by the First Galley to find the Purser with his mouth still agape at what had taken place. Apparently when he had gone to take the drinks order - and please bear in mind that this is a most charming personable individual who is an asset to the company.
He asked Sir what he would like to drink. He was told.
"Madam, would you care for something to drink"
She did not flinch or even look at him. He bent down suspecting that she might not hear him and to get eye contact.
Excuse me Madam? Would you care for anything to drink? "
She looked at him in stoney silence. He persisted and this time gestured drinking as he wondered if she actually spoke English
"Madam would_you_Like_a_Drink?"
She remained silent but her husband's voice cut through
"My wife does not speak to the hired help. She will have Champagne. Now"
Our Purser was speechless. He had never never been spoken to like that ever in his career. He's been called names, he's had discourtesy, rudeness in it but condescending rudeness and attitude - no Never. I shan't bore you with how I dealt with it, but that was the worst that I can remember in longer than I care to remember. Food allergies - deal with them all the time and are part of the world in which we live.
For you all - and this is rather OT - there was some article in the Telegraph colour suppliment about two years ago extolling the virtue of roast or casserolled squirrel (I kid you not). Some wag wrote to the paper and said that were this served in a restaurant that menu should contain tha warning "May contain Nuts"!!
PG
As for the worst exhibition that we ever had on board - and this one always stands out - was the couple that we had coming in one night on quite a long haul flight. They were in First Class and had not so much handed rather than waved their coats at the crew member for her to collect. I forget what went on prior to take off - but when we reached altitude was got straight out and the drinks orders were taken. I came by the First Galley to find the Purser with his mouth still agape at what had taken place. Apparently when he had gone to take the drinks order - and please bear in mind that this is a most charming personable individual who is an asset to the company.
He asked Sir what he would like to drink. He was told.
"Madam, would you care for something to drink"
She did not flinch or even look at him. He bent down suspecting that she might not hear him and to get eye contact.
Excuse me Madam? Would you care for anything to drink? "
She looked at him in stoney silence. He persisted and this time gestured drinking as he wondered if she actually spoke English
"Madam would_you_Like_a_Drink?"
She remained silent but her husband's voice cut through
"My wife does not speak to the hired help. She will have Champagne. Now"
Our Purser was speechless. He had never never been spoken to like that ever in his career. He's been called names, he's had discourtesy, rudeness in it but condescending rudeness and attitude - no Never. I shan't bore you with how I dealt with it, but that was the worst that I can remember in longer than I care to remember. Food allergies - deal with them all the time and are part of the world in which we live.
For you all - and this is rather OT - there was some article in the Telegraph colour suppliment about two years ago extolling the virtue of roast or casserolled squirrel (I kid you not). Some wag wrote to the paper and said that were this served in a restaurant that menu should contain tha warning "May contain Nuts"!!
PG
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Same here - in the meantime I'm reminiscing over the ordering habits of Robert Dupea (Jack Nicholson) in Five Easy Pieces:
http://www.filmsite.org/five.html
Dupea: I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes, tomatoes instead, a cup of coffee, and wheat toast.
Waitress: (She points to the menu) No substitutions.
Dupea: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?
Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelette. It comes with cottage fries and rolls.
Originally Posted by SkeptiCallie
I shan't bore you with how I dealt with it, but that was the worst that I can remember in longer than I care to remember.
PGPlease reconsider and tell us. Can't wait to hear it! ^
PGPlease reconsider and tell us. Can't wait to hear it! ^
http://www.filmsite.org/five.html
Dupea: I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes, tomatoes instead, a cup of coffee, and wheat toast.
Waitress: (She points to the menu) No substitutions.
Dupea: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?
Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelette. It comes with cottage fries and rolls.
#21
Join Date: Jul 2003
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My wife and I were out dining this last weekend at a restaurant that has fabulous cole-slaw. I had finished all of my entre and had a couple of bites of slaw left when I found a used band-aid (bandage) in my slaw. I stopped the waitress when she went by and explained what I had found. She brought the manager over and they kindly offered to give me something else, but I was almost done so I wasn't hungry. They did comp the meals. I guess I'm the opposite kind of customer. I didn't make a big deal of it (or sue).
BTW - we left a tip, too.
BTW - we left a tip, too.
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Originally Posted by adamak
Going to Peter Luger and asked for well done steak. You know they're going to microwave the meat instead.
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Originally Posted by chaunceysf
My pet peeve: people who take the opportunity of eating in a restaurant to make themselves feel superior by treating the staff as "servants." I was raised to always treat people the way I would like to be treated, and that includes wait staff in restaurants (my mother was a waitress, among other "careers").
So, if I am treated well, they should be treated as well or even better.
If I am not treated well, a word to the management is in order.
As to my fellow diners, the ones who are boorish, rude, demanding or insensitive are never asked to join me for a meal again!
So, if I am treated well, they should be treated as well or even better.
If I am not treated well, a word to the management is in order.
As to my fellow diners, the ones who are boorish, rude, demanding or insensitive are never asked to join me for a meal again!
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Same here - in the meantime I'm reminiscing over the ordering habits of Robert Dupea (Jack Nicholson) in Five Easy Pieces:
http://www.filmsite.org/five.html
Dupea: I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes, tomatoes instead, a cup of coffee, and wheat toast.
Waitress: (She points to the menu) No substitutions.
Dupea: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?
Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelette. It comes with cottage fries and rolls.[/QUOTE]
A great scene that clearly demonstrates the idea of "thinking outside the box". Nicholson ends up ordering a chicken salad sandwich to get his toast, but tells the waitress to hold the lettuce, tomato and chicken salad", but that she should charge him for the sandwich so she's not violating the "no substitutions" rule. Classic.
http://www.filmsite.org/five.html
Dupea: I'd like a plain omelette, no potatoes, tomatoes instead, a cup of coffee, and wheat toast.
Waitress: (She points to the menu) No substitutions.
Dupea: What do you mean? You don't have any tomatoes?
Waitress: Only what's on the menu. You can have a number two - a plain omelette. It comes with cottage fries and rolls.[/QUOTE]
A great scene that clearly demonstrates the idea of "thinking outside the box". Nicholson ends up ordering a chicken salad sandwich to get his toast, but tells the waitress to hold the lettuce, tomato and chicken salad", but that she should charge him for the sandwich so she's not violating the "no substitutions" rule. Classic.
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Originally Posted by PUCCI GALORE
I shan't bore you with how I dealt with it, but that was the worst that I can remember in longer than I care to remember.
Seriously, Pucci--I want to know how you dealt with their snobbery in a creative and productive way.
Jackal
#29
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Annoying thing I see a lot is when people order, they point to an item and ask the waiter, "Is this a good entree?"
What's the waiter supposed to say? No?
Better thing to say is, "Is this dish spicy/salty/sweet/whatever?"
What's the waiter supposed to say? No?
Better thing to say is, "Is this dish spicy/salty/sweet/whatever?"
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Originally Posted by juanvaldez
Annoying thing I see a lot is when people order, they point to an item and ask the waiter, "Is this a good entree?"
What's the waiter supposed to say? No?
Better thing to say is, "Is this dish spicy/salty/sweet/whatever?"
What's the waiter supposed to say? No?
Better thing to say is, "Is this dish spicy/salty/sweet/whatever?"
I'm not suggesting that the waiter disrespect any of the chef's creations, but I think it's perfectly acceptable to make recommendations based on personal likes/dislikes IF ASKED by a patron. I did this just last night when I was out for dinner. The waiter told me that the soup was good, but not his favorite, and he recommended a salad that I might not otherwise have tried. I appreciated his input based on my inquiry.

