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TWA884 Apr 15, 2019 7:41 pm

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Originally Posted by JBord (Post 31003925)
Day time is the pic I saw in researching it as well. Probably makes more sense for lunch so you can see the water and not just city lights. Thanks for posting!

Was the lunch menu the same as dinner? And same price?

The photo I posted above is a panorama that I took. ;)

To the best of my recollection, the menus and the prices were the same:

Here are images of the tasting and a la carte menus:

ETA: Sorry, I have no idea how to rotate them.

jbeans Apr 15, 2019 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 31003010)
In addition to 3* Meadowood and 1* Acacia House for our anniversary trip up the coast starting next week, we also will have dinners at 2* Baumé in Palo Alto, Sierra Mar in Big Sur (likely 1* when the new Michelin ranking comes out in June for all of California), 1* Kin Khao and 1* Mourad in San Francisco...plus lunch at 1* Auberge du Soleil as usual for us in Napa.

Kin Khao! We had lunch there, forgot that it was Michelin starred. Food there was excellent, get the khao soi!

DeathSlam Apr 16, 2019 3:20 am


Originally Posted by jbeans (Post 30964980)
Check out Taian.

Sadly I was unable to book this without a local sponsor (J address & tel) or using a scalper site.

Kgmm77 Apr 16, 2019 4:29 am


Originally Posted by JBord (Post 31002383)
3. In San Sebastian, we're looking to do a dinner and a lunch. Want to try Mirador de Ulia for the views...better views for lunch or dinner?

Unless you are eating a very early dinner you’ll have better views at lunchtime.

Not sure if you’ve considered Akelarre but the views there are fantastic, particularly from a window table,

sophialite Apr 16, 2019 4:42 am

Didn't realize this existed.

Doing a number of 3 stars this year:
Eleven Madison Park (which I've done every year since 2010)
Osteria Francescana
El Cellar

Seeing some talk of Benu ITT. I'm so glad I wasn't spending my own money when I ate there, because I never would. Good meal, but can't say much more.

In general I've had plenty of success trying to drop a ton of $$$ at SF fine dining and receiving average good in return.

Maybe I'm just a mission burrito kind of girl :-)

jbeans Apr 16, 2019 7:35 am


Originally Posted by DeathSlam (Post 31005512)
Sadly I was unable to book this without a local sponsor (J address & tel) or using a scalper site.

Perhaps your hotel concierge if you're staying at one? I booked it through concierge at the St.Regis.

JBord Apr 16, 2019 10:33 am


Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 31005630)
Unless you are eating a very early dinner you’ll have better views at lunchtime.

Not sure if you’ve considered Akelarre but the views there are fantastic, particularly from a window table,

We are still considering Akelarre too, it just wasn't one that I needed more info on :). I think we will do one of these two for lunch. Thanks to everyone for the posts, especially the photos.

Still would love to know if anyone here has tried Amelia or Kokotxa.

DeathSlam Apr 16, 2019 11:13 am


Originally Posted by jbeans (Post 31006049)
Perhaps your hotel concierge if you're staying at one? I booked it through concierge at the St.Regis.

Granvia Osaka (location over luxury) wouldn't book it according to amex. I can book it for a £27 kickback to tableall which I refuse to do. You may have better info or better concierges :)

DetailsIM Apr 16, 2019 11:25 am

Wife and I will be dining at Alinea tomorrow night.

Wine pairing? If so, regular or reserve? Or just do our own thing with by the glass and half bottle selections?

Would love to hear reviews of what FT'ers thought about their pairings.

jbeans Apr 16, 2019 11:40 am


Originally Posted by DeathSlam (Post 31006873)
Granvia Osaka (location over luxury) wouldn't book it according to amex. I can book it for a £27 kickback to tableall which I refuse to do. You may have better info or better concierges :)

Ah darn. Yeah I wouldn't pay that much just for a res either, that's just wrong! Especially when the meal itself is only 15000Y I think.

For a less trying option:
Unatoto Honmachi -- if you like unagi, this is a solid cheap and cheerful spot. Grilled eel is pretty much the only thing on the menu. We walked in without a res and sat at the grill.

bhrubin Apr 16, 2019 11:43 am


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31006926)
Wife and I will be dining at Alinea tomorrow night.

Wine pairing? If so, regular or reserve? Or just do our own thing with by the glass and half bottle selections?

Would love to hear reviews of what FT'ers thought about their pairings.

It’s one of the all time greats. With one of the amazing sommeliers. Get the pairing. Always.

DetailsIM Apr 16, 2019 11:52 am


Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 31006991)

It’s one of the all time greats. With one of the amazing sommeliers. Get the pairing. Always.

Will do! We also have reservations for Oriole 2 days later with girl and the goat in between.

We are channeling our inner BHRUBIN.

phant0m Apr 16, 2019 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31007017)
Will do! We also have reservations for Oriole 2 days later with girl and the goat in between.

We are channeling our inner BHRUBIN.

Did you get the Gallery or the Salon?

DeathSlam Apr 16, 2019 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by jbeans (Post 31006980)
Ah darn. Yeah I wouldn't pay that much just for a res either, that's just wrong! Especially when the meal itself is only 15000Y I think. For a less trying option: Unatoto Honmachi -- if you like unagi, this is a solid cheap and cheerful spot. Grilled eel is pretty much the only thing on the menu. We walked in without a res and sat at the grill.

Not starred but may as well have been. うなぎと和食 和心料理いとう near Shin-Osaka. Good unagi (yum). I think this Osaka trip will be M less but there are worse places for that to happen.

DetailsIM Apr 16, 2019 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by phant0m (Post 31007159)
Did you get the Gallery or the Salon?

Salon. On waiting list for Gallery. Gallery literally sold out in 2 minutes. We had a few days we could do it. I quickly checked times on those days. Went back to book and everything was gone. Amazing.

Still VERY excited tho.

phant0m Apr 16, 2019 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31007180)
Salon. On waiting list for Gallery. Gallery literally sold out in 2 minutes. We had a few days we could do it. I quickly checked times on those days. Went back to book and everything was gone. Amazing.

Still VERY excited tho.

Same thing happened to me. I have a Salon booking this Saturday. Tried to get Gallery but right on the dot when it was released it was sold out.

DetailsIM Apr 16, 2019 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by phant0m (Post 31007187)
Same thing happened to me. I have a Salon booking this Saturday. Tried to get Gallery but right on the dot when it was released it was sold out.

It's still going to be epic. My best friend wants to do his 40th at the Gallery later this year. Hopefully we can get in.

bhrubin Apr 16, 2019 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31007017)
Will do! We also have reservations for Oriole 2 days later with girl and the goat in between.

We are channeling our inner BHRUBIN.

You’ll need lots of air con, no jacket, and a true sense of charm and flirtation with the restaurant staff to properly channel me. :D

We had such an amazing time with the team there...and they totally encouraged me to flirt and mess with Chef Achatz. I made him totally blush when I asked if the glitter for his final dessert was because we were gay.

offerendum Apr 17, 2019 4:26 pm

Had a fabulous dinner tonight at Da Vittorio near Bergamo.

Hilde Apr 17, 2019 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31006926)
Wife and I will be dining at Alinea tomorrow night.

Wine pairing? If so, regular or reserve? Or just do our own thing with by the glass and half bottle selections?

Would love to hear reviews of what FT'ers thought about their pairings.

My sister and brother-in-law have had the regular wine pairing at Alinea, and both thought the servings of wine were a little on the small side (while still very good, of course)

Please report back how your experience at Alinea turned out :)

United747 Apr 17, 2019 5:18 pm

I had lunch at Jean-Georges a few weeks ago. I thought the service improved quite a bit since my last visit (summer 2018), but I was not nearly as impressed with the food.

I started with the pea soup which didn’t seem to have as much of a pop of flavor that it previously did. My second course was white asparagus with a lemon champagne sauce. The sauce was super sour and completely overwhelmed the dish. Lastly, I had the sweet and sour sweetbreads. This was by far the standout dish, very well executed.

Overall pretty disappointed with the food. Will probably look for another go-to weekend lunch spot for my NYC trips.

phant0m Apr 18, 2019 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by Hilde (Post 31002156)
I've had excellent meals at Acadia (2*) twice, they als have a bar area with a nice bar meny.
If you are in the mood for an excellent steak, Bavette's Bar & Boeuf always delivers.
Girl & the goat is a fun place too, if you can get a reservation.
I hear Boka is great too. Good luck!

Got a table at Boka tomorrow night after they had a cancellation. Excited for that whole duck!

bhrubin Apr 18, 2019 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31006926)
Wife and I will be dining at Alinea tomorrow night.

So how was it? Dying to hear what you thought!

TWA884 Apr 18, 2019 5:11 pm

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Originally Posted by phant0m (Post 31015143)
Got a table at Boka tomorrow night after they had a cancellation. Excited for that whole duck!

I dined there last summer. Good meal.

DetailsIM Apr 18, 2019 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 31015161)
So how was it? Dying to hear what you thought!

epic. We did the reserve wine pairing. Will post review when back home. But wow.

The staff makes it. Super down to earth. Great personalities. Not stuffy at all.

bhrubin Apr 18, 2019 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by DetailsIM (Post 31015706)
epic. We did the reserve wine pairing. Will post review when back home. But wow.

The staff makes it. Super down to earth. Great personalities. Not stuffy at all.

^^^

Fabulous. Exactly as I remember it. Makes me crave to return yet again.

Hilde Apr 19, 2019 4:53 am


Originally Posted by phant0m (Post 31015143)
Got a table at Boka tomorrow night after they had a cancellation. Excited for that whole duck!

Enjoy! Please let us know how your duck turned out :D

Bohemian1 Apr 19, 2019 12:53 pm

We are going to spending a few days in Rome in June and have started looking at some restaurant options.

We've been to Rome many times but are always eager to check out some new (at least to us) options for higher end dining. I cruised through the last year or so of this thread looking for options and have a couple of candidates (Il Pagliaccio and Pierluigi seem to get a few mentions). But did anyone want to call out a particularly great option based on recent experience?

Thanks!

estnet Apr 19, 2019 12:56 pm

La Pergola - haven't been for a few years but I keep dreaming about it and would almost go back to Rome just to eat there!

bhrubin Apr 19, 2019 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 31017725)
We are going to spending a few days in Rome in June and have started looking at some restaurant options.

We've been to Rome many times but are always eager to check out some new (at least to us) options for higher end dining. I cruised through the last year or so of this thread looking for options and have a couple of candidates (Il Pagliaccio and Pierluigi seem to get a few mentions). But did anyone want to call out a particularly great option based on recent experience?

Thanks!

I can’t comment on La Pergola; they have a strict jacket requirement that precluded my interest.

But our dinner at IL Pagliaccio was superb...and surprisingly fun. We actually met a couple across from us who also were a bit more gregarious than the average fine diners! They ended up joining us for the dessert and drinks after dinner and actually spent most of the next day with us. We’re still in touch.

And La Terrazza at the Eden was really good too...though that does seem a little inconsistent based on other reviews. But we really liked it.

Bohemian1 Apr 19, 2019 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by estnet (Post 31017739)
La Pergola - haven't been for a few years but I keep dreaming about it and would almost go back to Rome just to eat there!

La Pergola was a tale of two diners for us.

Ms. Boh had amazing food and matching service. I had very good food and less than acceptable service. It was really quite odd and we commented to management about it at the time. But they must be doing something right to hold onto those stars.

But thanks for the suggestion!

Bohemian1 Apr 19, 2019 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 31017843)

I can’t comment on La Pergola; they have a strict jacket requirement that precluded my interest.

But our dinner at IL Pagliaccio was superb...and surprisingly fun. We actually met a couple across from us who also were a bit more gregarious than the average fine diners! They ended up joining us for the dessert and drinks after dinner and actually spent most of the next day with us. We’re still in touch.

And La Terrazza at the Eden was really good too...though that does seem a little inconsistent based on other reviews. But we really liked it.

Thanks for reinforcing the positive vote for Il Pagliaccio. I noticed it showed on one of the OAD lists as well.

La Terrazza was not on my radar and I will investigate. It's just a 15 minute walk from where we are staying.

Thanks!

bhrubin Apr 19, 2019 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 31018329)
Thanks for reinforcing the positive vote for Il Pagliaccio. I noticed it showed on one of the OAD lists as well.

La Terrazza was not on my radar and I will investigate. It's just a 15 minute walk from where we are staying.

Thanks!

We also walked from the St Regis to the Eden/La Terrazza. I actually had worn a very nice but short sleeved collared shirt but was turned away as being too casual, so I had to run back to the StR and then taxi'd to the Eden in the new long sleeved shirt. (I'm always too hot, so I try my best.) And still we loved our dinner. (They also bought us a round as an apology for the misunderstanding and as a thanks for being so gracious; I was pretty impressed by that, since I knew I was pushing it a bit with the short sleeved shirt.) Funny how I remember it so clearly partly because of that mishap!

PsiFighter37 Apr 19, 2019 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by United747 (Post 31011918)
I had lunch at Jean-Georges a few weeks ago. I thought the service improved quite a bit since my last visit (summer 2018), but I was not nearly as impressed with the food.

I started with the pea soup which didn’t seem to have as much of a pop of flavor that it previously did. My second course was white asparagus with a lemon champagne sauce. The sauce was super sour and completely overwhelmed the dish. Lastly, I had the sweet and sour sweetbreads. This was by far the standout dish, very well executed.

Overall pretty disappointed with the food. Will probably look for another go-to weekend lunch spot for my NYC trips.

GT does a great lunch, but I’m sure you already knew that :) If you are looking for something in the neighborhood, Marea (if it’s open for weekend lunch) does a very good - and affordable - lunch as well.

Separate question - does anyone have suggestions on SF-starred spots that do a la carte dining? My wife and I are stopping by on our way to Hawaii next month, but we would prefer to do something that is a) not terribly exotic, and b) that has options other than a fixed tasting menu. We will book a spot for bites at Bar Crenn our first night in town, but depending on our availability on the other nights, it’d be great to see what else there is. I’d also be open to hearing if there are good spots in SF proper for a weekday lunch as well. Thanks in advance for any tips / recs :)

estnet Apr 19, 2019 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 (Post 31018707)


GT does a great lunch, but I’m sure you already knew that :) If you are looking for something in the neighborhood, Marea (if it’s open for weekend lunch) does a very good - and affordable - lunch as well.

Separate question - does anyone have suggestions on SF-starred spots that do a la carte dining? My wife and I are stopping by on our way to Hawaii next month, but we would prefer to do something that is a) not terribly exotic, and b) that has options other than a fixed tasting menu. We will book a spot for bites at Bar Crenn our first night in town, but depending on our availability on the other nights, it’d be great to see what else there is. I’d also be open to hearing if there are good spots in SF proper for a weekday lunch as well. Thanks in advance for any tips / recs :)

Not Michelin starred (think it had 1 then lost it) La Folie, which has been amazing for many years. They don't have a la carte but a 4 course menu for $150 - but you get to choose the courses from 3 or 4 in each category (soup, fish, meat, dessert) - you don't have to chose 1 from each you could have 2 fish and 2 meat if u wish (at least when I was last there), There are other menus as well -vegetarian, chef's as well. Not open for lunch

United747 Apr 19, 2019 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 (Post 31018707)
GT does a great lunch, but I’m sure you already knew that :) If you are looking for something in the neighborhood, Marea (if it’s open for weekend lunch) does a very good - and affordable - lunch as well.

I forgot about Marea, thanks! Union Square Cafe and GT are my two faves!

bhrubin Apr 19, 2019 11:28 pm


Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 (Post 31018707)
Separate question - does anyone have suggestions on SF-starred spots that do a la carte dining? My wife and I are stopping by on our way to Hawaii next month, but we would prefer to do something that is a) not terribly exotic, and b) that has options other than a fixed tasting menu. We will book a spot for bites at Bar Crenn our first night in town, but depending on our availability on the other nights, it’d be great to see what else there is. I’d also be open to hearing if there are good spots in SF proper for a weekday lunch as well. Thanks in advance for any tips / recs :)

I highly recommend both Mourad (Moroccan) and In Situ (recreated famous dishes from around the world) for a la carte dining—and they’re both right around the block from each other and basically next to the St Regis. They’re two of my staples in SF.

Most 1* restaurants will offer a la carte dining IME.

phant0m Apr 19, 2019 11:31 pm

Just got back to the hotel from Boka. Great food. Much more of a low key Michelin restaurant. The duck was amazing.

So this morning Alinea sent an email saying they had an opening for their gallery tomorrow but it was for a table of 4 and we're only two. Tried contacting them, having concierge call, and amex call to see if they can do it for 2 but they wouldn't do it. Then the table sold. *cry*

offerendum Apr 20, 2019 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 31017725)
We are going to spending a few days in Rome in June and have started looking at some restaurant options.

We've been to Rome many times but are always eager to check out some new (at least to us) options for higher end dining. I cruised through the last year or so of this thread looking for options and have a couple of candidates (Il Pagliaccio and Pierluigi seem to get a few mentions). But did anyone want to call out a particularly great option based on recent experience?

Thanks!

Was in Rome recently and had 4 meals. Here the short version:

La Terrazza: Solid but not great in my eyes. Would only be my choice if staying at the Eden
La Pergola: Great! Fabulous dinner, must visit in my eyes.
Imago: Had low expectations but had a very good dinner. 2 star level in my eyes.
Moma: Got a star recently. Considering value it's the place to be with 69 € for a Tasting. Good 1 star level, would visit again.

Originally Posted by bhrubin (Post 31018392)
We also walked from the St Regis to the Eden/La Terrazza. I actually had worn a very nice but short sleeved collared shirt but was turned away as being too casual, so I had to run back to the StR and then taxi'd to the Eden in the new long sleeved shirt. (I'm always too hot, so I try my best.) And still we loved our dinner. (They also bought us a round as an apology for the misunderstanding and as a thanks for being so gracious; I was pretty impressed by that, since I knew I was pushing it a bit with the short sleeved shirt.) Funny how I remember it so clearly partly because of that mishap!

Wow, was never turned away....

TWA884 Apr 20, 2019 4:08 pm


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 31020861)

Was in Rome recently and had 4 meals. Here the short version:

<snip>

Moma: Got a star recently. Considering value it's the place to be with 69 € for a Tasting. Good 1 star level, would visit again.

We had an excellent meal there in 2014 before they lost their Michelin star. I'm glad to read that they got it back.


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