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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by kklems
Not sure about awful. My thought at the time was when I am paying so much for a meal it should be perfect. But you can't really complain that fish tastes "fishy". I have the same thing happen to me when I go fishing or go to down the local fish monger if I don't eat the filets in a day or two. It doesn't mean the fish is bad, just takes on a more fishy taste.

And in retrospect we are talking a land locked state that probably flies in its seafood and this was a holiday Monday so I would doubt they had a deliverly on Sunday and the holiday Monday. The fish likely was delivered on Friday or Saturday.

I just had in my mind a higher standard given the *** and the cost so it disappointed me at the time.
My thought is if you cannot get the ingredients to do it right, don't serve the meal. A *** restaurant does not have to serve the same menu every day of the year if there is trouble getting certain ingredients at certain times. The guest should not have to compromise on taste because the kitchen is short of fresh fish.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 1:42 am
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Originally Posted by stimpy
I gave Maze a try here in London. Ramsey lost a star, but it's still listed in the 2016 Michelin guide. It is a very trendy spot and hard to get a reservation, unless you are a single and sit at the bar counter. Which is a bit uncomfortable sadly. They are running a 20% off promo if you pay with Amex, through September.

The food was fine, but the service while good, is not up to Michelin star standards.
No question that Maze has gone downhill over the past few years as it seems like complacency has set in. I was last there late last year and it will be my last visit. There must be 200 better restaurants in London.

I think Maze also lost its star.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
My thought is if you cannot get the ingredients to do it right, don't serve the meal. A *** restaurant does not have to serve the same menu every day of the year if there is trouble getting certain ingredients at certain times. The guest should not have to compromise on taste because the kitchen is short of fresh fish.
Absolutely! They simply cant hold the fish for a few days. If they dont have fresh fish, they cant serve fish. I think its this simple. If I wonna eat "fishy" fish I can buy at the supermarket (perhaps with reduced price) or eat at a mediocre but hopefully cheap restaurant. If I would be the tester and get fishy fish they could say god bye to their stars....
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 6:12 am
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Another reason why the modern 3 star kitchen must be adaptable to daily market offerings. Many of these "institutions" are famous for certain dishes, but there must be other offerings of equal quality if ingredients are constrained.
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
seems amber @ LMO HK changed director recently
How has that affected the restaurant?
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 9:15 am
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there was discussion regarding reservation policies for amber restaurant (at a MO hotel)
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Old Jun 29, 2016 | 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37
I would support this. The fact that only NYC, Chicago, and SF/Bay Area are Michelin-rated (with D.C. to follow) is a crime. There is so much good food in the U.S. that not having other areas rated widely is a bit criminal. I would suggest at a minimum adding:

-Los Angeles/SoCal
-Pacific NW (Seattle / Portland)
-Southwest US (with Vegas being the anchor)
-Rockies / Mountain West (with Denver as anchor)
-South (with Atlanta and one of the Texas cities as anchors)
-New England (Boston as the anchor)
Adding, yes.

I tend to agree with the ratings that the WaPost food critic gave out to "top food cities," based on not just the restaurants but the markets, etc., last year, and the fact LA wasn't in the top 10--they have decent food, but IMHO Vegas is superior. Heck, Portland was IIRC Sietsema's top food city in the US, and by his criteria (which FWIW does not overlap much with the Michelin notion), they deserved it. Houston was up there, too, surprisingly.

But I do think that San Francisco, NYC, and Chicago will continue to lead the way in the US.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by exerda
Adding, yes.

I tend to agree with the ratings that the WaPost food critic gave out to "top food cities," based on not just the restaurants but the markets, etc., last year, and the fact LA wasn't in the top 10--they have decent food, but IMHO Vegas is superior. Heck, Portland was IIRC Sietsema's top food city in the US, and by his criteria (which FWIW does not overlap much with the Michelin notion), they deserved it. Houston was up there, too, surprisingly.

But I do think that San Francisco, NYC, and Chicago will continue to lead the way in the US.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sty...merica-ranked/

1 portland
2 san francisco
3 los angeles
4 new orleans
5 houston
6 philadephia
7 chicago
8 NY
9 DC
10 charleston
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 10:55 am
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So I am trying to finalize my honeymoon plans - posted here and got some great feedback. Having never been to Europe (we're doing London, Paris, Rome), any recommendations or changes to this plan:

London
Gordon Ramsay - dinner
Square - lunch
Dinner by Heston - dinner
The Ledbury - dinner
Alain Ducasse Dorchester - lunch

Paris
Guy Savoy - dinner
Le Cinq - dinner

Rome
La Pergola - dinner (staying at the waldorf)
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/sty...merica-ranked/

1 portland
2 san francisco
3 los angeles
4 new orleans
5 houston
6 philadephia
7 chicago
8 NY
9 DC
10 charleston
This list has nothing in common with Guide Michelin. There may be some restaurants on the list but its not focused on fine Dining restaurants.
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by sig05
Rome
La Pergola - dinner (staying at the waldorf)
This is my favorite restaurant in Rome. http://www.quinziegabrieli.it/
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by offerendum
This list has nothing in common with Guide Michelin. There may be some restaurants on the list but its not focused on fine Dining restaurants.
i posted the article someone else mentioned while replying to someone else involved in a discussion about which cities should have michelin guides
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Old Jun 30, 2016 | 7:07 pm
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We are planning our first visit to Japan this fall (Tokyo-Osaka-Kyoto). With so many Michelin restaurants we have to try at least one or two (although I promised my husband we would be more spontaneous and adventurous on this trip)

Which are your personal favorites that we absolutely shouldn't miss ?


Appreciate your help in advance.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 1:25 am
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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri
i posted the article someone else mentioned while replying to someone else involved in a discussion about which cities should have michelin guides
Wasnt a reproach to you or someone else. I referred to the discussion as someone built a connection between this list and the introduction of a Guide Michelin for several areas. Simply think this are 2 cups of tea but its interesting to read. So not misplaced in this thread.
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Old Jul 1, 2016 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by sig05
So I am trying to finalize my honeymoon plans - posted here and got some great feedback. Having never been to Europe (we're doing London, Paris, Rome), any recommendations or changes to this plan:

London
Gordon Ramsay - dinner
Square - lunch
Dinner by Heston - dinner
The Ledbury - dinner
Alain Ducasse Dorchester - lunch

Paris
Guy Savoy - dinner
Le Cinq - dinner

Rome
La Pergola - dinner (staying at the waldorf)
As much as I love eating at Michelin starred restaurants, it gets kinda old, almost to the point of being annoying, if I do more than two or three restaurants in a row.

You may be different, but if it were me, I'd throw in some restaurants that either aren't Michelin starred or not as fancy as some of the ones on the list.

Oh and congrats on the wedding
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