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kklems Jun 22, 2016 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by United747 (Post 26709242)
The service at Joël Robuchon in Vegas wasn't good last time I was there. But if Guy Savoy is as good as Paris, it's probably the best in Vegas, imo.

Dined at JR last month (not L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon but JR) and thought the service was excellent with the maitre d going out of his way to make sure we were comfortable. The food on the other hand had some issues but in retrospect I think some of that may have been that it was a holiday and they may not have gotten food delivered for a few days. (mostly issue with fish dishes)

Thanks also for article about the Michelin reviewer. Interesting.

While eating at E by Jose Andres I was listening in to some conversations (nothing to add since I had not been to any of those retaurants). They were having a heavy discussion about chefs/restaurants in the US , dream jobs etc. They said that Michelin is looking at moving to regions versus cities so as to be more economically feasible to have a guide for places like LV so stars may be coming back.

United747 Jun 22, 2016 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by kklems (Post 26817590)
Dined at JR last month (not L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon but JR) and thought the service was excellent with the maitre d going out of his way to make sure we were comfortable. The food on the other hand had some issues but in retrospect I think some of that may have been that it was a holiday and they may not have gotten food delivered for a few days. (mostly issue with fish dishes)

Thanks also for article about the Michelin reviewer. Interesting.

While eating at E by Jose Andres I was listening in to some conversations (nothing to add since I had not been to any of those retaurants). They were having a heavy discussion about chefs/restaurants in the US , dream jobs etc. They said that Michelin is looking at moving to regions versus cities so as to be more economically feasible to have a guide for places like LV so stars may be coming back.

That's good to hear that you had nice service, maybe I'll stop by soon.

offerendum Jun 24, 2016 1:50 am


Originally Posted by kklems (Post 26817590)
The food on the other hand had some issues but in retrospect I think some of that may have been that it was a holiday and they may not have gotten food delivered for a few days. (mostly issue with fish dishes)

Sounds awful! Not even acceptable at a family restaurant.....

kklems Jun 25, 2016 5:58 am


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 26823652)
Sounds awful! Not even acceptable at a family restaurant.....

Not sure about awful. My thought at the time was when I am paying so much for a meal it should be perfect. But you can't really complain that fish tastes "fishy". I have the same thing happen to me when I go fishing or go to down the local fish monger if I don't eat the filets in a day or two. It doesn't mean the fish is bad, just takes on a more fishy taste.

And in retrospect we are talking a land locked state that probably flies in its seafood and this was a holiday Monday so I would doubt they had a deliverly on Sunday and the holiday Monday. The fish likely was delivered on Friday or Saturday.

I just had in my mind a higher standard given the *** and the cost so it disappointed me at the time.

Non-NonRev Jun 25, 2016 7:30 am

This is the reason for Anthony Bourdain's "never order fish on a Monday" rule.

PsiFighter37 Jun 25, 2016 8:22 am


Originally Posted by kklems (Post 26817590)
While eating at E by Jose Andres I was listening in to some conversations (nothing to add since I had not been to any of those retaurants). They were having a heavy discussion about chefs/restaurants in the US , dream jobs etc. They said that Michelin is looking at moving to regions versus cities so as to be more economically feasible to have a guide for places like LV so stars may be coming back.

I would support this. The fact that only NYC, Chicago, and SF/Bay Area are Michelin-rated (with D.C. to follow) is a crime. There is so much good food in the U.S. that not having other areas rated widely is a bit criminal. I would suggest at a minimum adding:

-Los Angeles/SoCal
-Pacific NW (Seattle / Portland)
-Southwest US (with Vegas being the anchor)
-Rockies / Mountain West (with Denver as anchor)
-South (with Atlanta and one of the Texas cities as anchors)
-New England (Boston as the anchor)

Non-NonRev Jun 25, 2016 10:05 am


Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 (Post 26829216)
-Los Angeles/SoCal
-Pacific NW (Seattle / Portland)
-Southwest US (with Vegas being the anchor)
-Rockies / Mountain West (with Denver as anchor)
-South (with Atlanta and one of the Texas cities as anchors)
-New England (Boston as the anchor)

Or even to start, LA/Vegas needs to be every year. You could start with a "rest of US" and expand from there.

nineworldseries Jun 27, 2016 3:05 pm

Anybody done Mourad in SF? Thinking of making reservations there for our trip in mid-July. The "La'acha" family-style Moroccan dining looks really interesting.

lhrsfo Jun 27, 2016 6:10 pm


Originally Posted by VivoPerLei (Post 26735218)
Finally got a reservation at Restaurant Marianne in London. With only 14 covers that was a tough nut to crack.

Lucky you: I've tried off and on for a year now but never had any joy. Hope it's good!

offerendum Jun 28, 2016 1:42 am


Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 (Post 26829216)
-Los Angeles/SoCal

LA was rated years ago as Vegas was. I agree itīs a shame as AAA isnīt the same.....

Non-NonRev Jun 28, 2016 4:37 am


Originally Posted by offerendum (Post 26840801)
LA was rated years ago as Vegas was. I agree itīs a shame as AAA isnīt the same.....

In my proposed LA/Vegas zone I can see 5 likely 3 star candidates; this matches the 5 in San Francisco /Napa

Providence
Melisse
Urasaw
Robuchon
Savoy

TWA884 Jun 28, 2016 10:15 am


Originally Posted by Non-NonRev (Post 26841200)
In my proposed LA/Vegas zone I can see 5 likely 3 star candidates; this matches the 5 in San Francisco /Napa

Providence
Melisse
Urasaw
Robuchon
Savoy

No Los Angeles Restaurant had three stars when Michelin last published its Los Angeles Red Guide back in 2009. Providence, Melisse, Spago and Urasawa had two stars.
And once again there will not be a Los Angeles Michelin Red Guide for 2017.

stimpy Jun 28, 2016 2:25 pm

I gave Maze a try here in London. Ramsey lost a star, but it's still listed in the 2016 Michelin guide. It is a very trendy spot and hard to get a reservation, unless you are a single and sit at the bar counter. Which is a bit uncomfortable sadly. They are running a 20% off promo if you pay with Amex, through September.

The food was fine, but the service while good, is not up to Michelin star standards.

Kagehitokiri Jun 28, 2016 2:47 pm

seems amber @ LMO HK changed director recently

PsiFighter37 Jun 28, 2016 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by Non-NonRev (Post 26841200)
In my proposed LA/Vegas zone I can see 5 likely 3 star candidates; this matches the 5 in San Francisco /Napa

Providence
Melisse
Urasaw
Robuchon
Savoy

Been to Providence and Melisse. Both were good but Melisse IMO was markedly better (and definitely deserving of the 2 stars it had previously).


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