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HawaiiTrvlr Aug 30, 2015 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 25337024)
And in reverse, I've heard patron ask "what's the soup du jour today."

A humorous bit on soup du jour from the movie, Dumb and Dumber


Allan38103 Aug 30, 2015 6:41 pm

"Gee Wally, do you think I'm gonna get yelled at by a grownup?

"I don't Beav, sometimes Grownups do goofy things".

VivoPerLei Aug 31, 2015 3:32 am


Originally Posted by sinoflyer (Post 25350567)
Like others have said, I'd like to know what restaurant this was -- not so that I would avoid the place myself next time, but perhaps it gives context into why the waiter behaved the way they did.

I can think of one meal at Dabbous where a course was brought out without a knife and I used my butter knife. The waiter noticed, came over and said something to the effect that the chef doesn't want you to cut it, he wants you to eat it as is.

Badenoch Aug 31, 2015 6:23 am

Only once. At a mid-range Italian restaurant in the business district of Toronto while having lunch with co-workers I had a waiter criticize me when I asked for parmesan cheese on a seafood pasta dish. "Cheese is NOT put on seafood" as he turned and walked away.

I excused myself from the table, had a very blunt conversation with the manager about being embarrassed in front of colleagues by his server.

A few minutes later the same waiter came out looking very chastened, apologized profusely and completed the order as requested. :)

MaxBuck Aug 31, 2015 6:26 am


Originally Posted by Delta Hog (Post 25338143)
When you order onion soup with bread and cheese on top in Paris, is calling it "French onion soup" redundant?

I hardly think so. Don't want the soup if it's made with Greek onions.

perthflyer Aug 31, 2015 8:43 am


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 25332259)
the first incident was when a server came over mid-course and told me I was using the wrong piece of cutlery for the course I was on and suggested I should change. hmm - it was working OK for me!

I wouldn't be too impressed if that happened to me while I was dining. I'm a manager at a restaurant and if I ever saw one of my staff doing/saying that to a customer I'd have a quiet word with them saying that it doesn't matter what cutlery someone uses - the easiest way to deal with that situation would to just let the diner use whatever cutlery they fancy and once that course is cleared to just replace the cutlery setting as need be. Luckily I've not had to talk to a member of my staff about that as they are all on the ball with that and are attentive so they can rectify any cutlery situation between courses. :)

Kagehitokiri Aug 31, 2015 9:00 am

isnt it better to complain AFTER the food/drink has been brought? :D

TMOliver Aug 31, 2015 9:21 am

I can only recall 4 occasions in my long life and extensive travels that I felt that a waiter was both qualified to advise me and his counsel welcomed.....

1. Nice, 1963 - Advisory commentary on European rabbit/hare (Whilst in my youth out here in flyover country, I had dined on Peter Cottontail and tried jackrabbit, only to find it less than appealing, I knew nothing of those wily Uropeens and their ways with rabbit).

2. Livorno, 1965 - Not really a waiter, more a street vendor, able to convince me (with my halting Italian and his lack of English) that "triglie", the humble red mullet, could be a great entree, not prepared in the classic "Livornese" method, but simply bathed in a little olive oil, S & P, then grilled over an open fire of grapevine, served with lemon, bread and local white wine.

3. Arras, 1982 - Traveling with our young daughters (14 & 9) by car in a big loop around Western Europe, the dining room of an old hotel, a grand old waiter, spent time and effort convincing my daughters (French-less) on the virtues of the price fixe menu and the additions he would make to it. So "un-French" as to amaze me. Dessert wasa choice of a chocolate mousse or fresh strawberries. Our daughters wanted both, together. With much attention from the chef at the doors to the kitchen, they got'em.

4. Galatoire's, NOLA, continuing 1955 or so until the mid 90s. Introduced by my grandfather, a picky eater admiring only the simplest of Gulf seafood preparation, a waiter who became my dining adviser for many visits over the next 40 years, until his retirement. It was from him that I learned the concept of arriving at 2PM for "lunch", always ordering only 1 dish at a time, even better when with a fellow diner, never hurry, and that a good waiter understands the preparation of everything on the menu (and is prepared to recommend or reject, based on his evaluation of your likes, dislikes, and habits).

There may be others out there whom I haven't met, but I've sure been displeased with some I have...

Delta Hog Aug 31, 2015 10:08 am


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 25355365)
4. Galatoire's, NOLA, continuing 1955 or so until the mid 90s. Introduced by my grandfather, a picky eater admiring only the simplest of Gulf seafood preparation, a waiter who became my dining adviser for many visits over the next 40 years, until his retirement. It was from him that I learned the concept of arriving at 2PM for "lunch", always ordering only 1 dish at a time, even better when with a fellow diner, never hurry, and that a good waiter understands the preparation of everything on the menu (and is prepared to recommend or reject, based on his evaluation of your likes, dislikes, and habits).

That reminds me of my one and only trip to Galatoire's, probably 2002 or so, with a local and a regular at the restaurant. Never saw a menu, the entire meal was conversations with the waiter about best dishes, best approaches, and essentially "what was good that night"? All the food was sublime.

Delta Hog Aug 31, 2015 10:11 am


Originally Posted by MaxBuck (Post 25354592)
I hardly think so. Don't want the soup if it's made with Greek onions.

Ah so you're saying that French modifies onion not soup....a quick google search didn't reveal an easy answer on that one. Also not sure how firmly your tongue was planted in cheek.

Need Aug 31, 2015 11:09 am


Originally Posted by Badenoch (Post 25354584)
I excused myself from the table, had a very blunt conversation with the manager about being embarrassed in front of colleagues by his server.

A few minutes later the same waiter came out looking very chastened, apologized profusely and completed the order as requested. :)

Or so you thought... I used to work as a bus boy in a few restaurants. Doing that will pretty much result in special ingredients added to your food. If not this time, next time if you ever go back. ;)

Two things I learn as a bus boy:
1) How to balance a bunch of glasses of water on a tray
2) Don't piss off the person who brings you your food

Badenoch Aug 31, 2015 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by Need (Post 25355913)
Or so you thought... I used to work as a bus boy in a few restaurants. Doing that will pretty much result in special ingredients added to your food. If not this time, next time if you ever go back. ;)

Two things I learn as a bus boy:
1) How to balance a bunch of glasses of water on a tray
2) Don't piss off the person who brings you your food

It wouldn't have happened in this instance as my food was already on the table. This event was several years ago and as it turns out the restaurant folded shortly after and I didn't have the chance to return.

jill5172 Aug 31, 2015 12:40 pm

Years ago, I was hosting a business lunch at Le Louis XV (Alain Ducasse restaurant that earned him three Michelin stars). Our lunch was scheduled for around noon, and the guest of honor was speaking at a convention at 2 PM. The first embarrassment occurred when the guest of honor was given the only menu with prices on it (at the time, about 350 euro pp for the price fixe menu).

The next embarrassment occurred when the server learned that the guest of honor wouldn't be there for the entire 3+ hour meal event, loudly proclaimed to him, "If you cannot stay for the entire meal, you cannot eat!"

The guest of honor was a very traditional, gentlemanly type and he just said, "of course, I understand, no problem. Please just go ahead with the rest of the table." We tried to get the server to allow him to participate in as many courses as he could before leaving, to no avail.

The server then proceeded to serve at least three courses to the rest of the table, pointedly bypassing our guest of honor every time. It was hugely embarrassing.

Despite that, it was still the best meal I've ever had. ;)

Kagehitokiri Aug 31, 2015 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 25355365)
Galatoire's, NOLA
always ordering only 1 dish at a time


Originally Posted by Delta Hog (Post 25355618)
Galatoire's, probably 2002 or so, with a local and a regular at the restaurant. Never saw a menu, the entire meal was conversations with the waiter about best dishes, best approaches, and essentially "what was good that night"? All the food was sublime.

brilliant, great posts

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatoire's

violist Sep 1, 2015 7:56 am


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 25355365)
4. Galatoire's, NOLA, continuing 1955 or so until the mid 90s. Introduced by my grandfather, a picky eater admiring only the simplest of Gulf seafood preparation, a waiter who became my dining adviser for many visits over the next 40 years, until his retirement.

Was that Imre the guy with the eyebrows? My favorite.


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