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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
I've been tempted to fish for salmon near our place in WA and use the salmon for sashimi and un-pickled Ikura - but was warned against trying it due to the almost assured risk of picking up any number of nasty parasites that could end up causing serious problems.
The University of Washington did a study several years ago in which they found that 100% of wild caught salmon had parasites, while farmed salmon had virtually none. Note that in Japan salmon is not traditionally eaten as sashimi, most Japanese find it too oily. You'll see it at kaiten-zushi type of places and it's usually farmed Atlantic salmon that's why it looks like the salmon nigiri in N. America. I am told that in Hokkaido (known for its salmon), it is usually served cooked, if served raw it is heavily salted.
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Old Oct 12, 2012 | 10:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mosburger
After getting familiar with the restaurant scene in China, I tend to agree with the US government. There are a few countries in the World like Japan and partially Korea where you can mostly trust restaurateurs, but better to stay on the safe side for the rest of us.
Once upon a time, I really enjoyed sashimi. Nowadays I just don't bother. With the latest news out of southeast asia wrt pig feces as shrimp feed I'm going to be cutting back even further. Ceviche is being cut off the list too. I want everything cooked. VERY few countries maintain standards similar to Japan's. In fact, I'm lately bothered by the fact that all serious foodies (read: serious restaurants) barely cook their fish even when they cook it.

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The University of Washington did a study several years ago in which they found that 100% of wild caught salmon had parasites, while farmed salmon had virtually none.
Interesting. I'd love to see the story.
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Old Oct 13, 2012 | 10:28 pm
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I live in TX, I am thankful for the invention of flash freezing that allows me to have wonderfully fresh tuna and other fish when I desire to eat it.
I love eating fresh, totally unfrozen raw veggies and the like, but I just can't get ocean fish in the same way. There is little to no taste difference as long as handled properly and kept at low temps without changing humidity extremes.

Available due to flash freezing!
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 5:08 am
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Is all sushi fish frozen?

Most sushi fish needs to be frozen to kill bacteria and parasites. Tuna doesn’t have to be frozen, and in fact, tastes much better before being frozen. Despite this, many sushi sellers actually use frozen Tuna because it is convenient, and cheaper than purchasing fresh fish.

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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by slawecki
if there are "bad" parasites in some fish, what are these parasites? surely science has names, other than worms and bugs for them. what is a parasite. name bad parasites. i do know that some warm water fish, particularly the large ones, are thought to have parasites that are not good.

but this is nonsense . fish make up a reasonable percentage of the american foodstuff, and we describe the problems as "worms and parasites". and they are bad!!! what are these thingies in the fishies? we spend a billion bucks to flash freeze and thaw all the fish. why? let's not talk to medical science, let's find a real science that can tell us what horrible posioning fish freezing is stopping.
Parasites are not poisoning, parasites are creatures living in/off a host organism like a human. There's a pretty interesting parasite museum in Meguro neighborhood in Tokyo, replete with many large preserved specimens in jars removed from hosts, along with some pretty graphic case studies of people affected. A perfect complement to a morning visit to Tsukiji fish market (where, BTW, all the whole tuna carcasses look totally frozen, and the bandsaws to cut them into lesser chunks wouldn't appear so practical if the fish were not frozen solid).
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Old Nov 4, 2013 | 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by FLLDL
Most sushi fish is indeed frozen at some point, even at fancier places. Unless fish is coming in on a day boat, how else would they keep it from rotting?
Proper sushi fish and shell fish, etc... must NEVER be frozen. It is stored in refrigerators that are calibrated to temperatures very close to freezing, but it must not actually hit 0 degrees celsius.

Shell fish are actually still alive when you eat them, and shrimp are alive until they are boiled. In tempura, such ingredients are equally fresh and still alive until they are fried, i.e. moments before eating.

IMO proper sushi is rarely found outside of Tokyo.

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Old Nov 7, 2013 | 11:00 pm
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Great.. here we spend all these extra bucks to get what we think is great sushi, and all it really amounts to is McDonalds quality. So you mean, I've never tried real sushi before? Everything is always frozen before its served?
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by MikeFromTokyo
Proper sushi fish and shell fish, etc... must NEVER be frozen. It is stored in refrigerators that are calibrated to temperatures very close to freezing, but it must not actually hit 0 degrees celsius.

Shell fish are actually still alive when you eat them, and shrimp are alive until they are boiled. In tempura, such ingredients are equally fresh and still alive until they are fried, i.e. moments before eating.

IMO proper sushi is rarely found outside of Tokyo.
agree on shellfish but isn't pretty much all tuna frozen with liquid nitrogen?
sure looked that way at tsukiji market...
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 4:59 am
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Originally Posted by azepine00
agree on shellfish but isn't pretty much all tuna frozen with liquid nitrogen?
sure looked that way at tsukiji market...
I can't comment on what happens at Tsukiji. All I know is what I have been reliably informed by top sushi chefs in Tokyo whose restaurants I frequent. They certainly do not freeze any fish or shellfish.
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Old Nov 8, 2013 | 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by Steph3n
no really, sushi is the rice, and can be fresh, or old. I've had some terrible sushi that was having rice that is just dried up, no good at all.

Raw fish is NOT sushi, raw fish, be it frozen prior or fresh off the dock, is sashimi. Sushi can be terrible if old(and it gets that way quickly especially if airflow around), I mean disgusting, of course so could sashimi but I don't think freezing has much to do with it unless it is not stored properly and gets 'freezer burn'
To be more precise, sushi is vinagered rice combined with something else. Just the rice itself is not "sushi", and the something else can be raw or cooked, or even not meat at all (e.g. tofu). Sashimi is just raw meat by itself, usually fish/seafood, but also can be red meat or poultry.
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