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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
Like many (apparently) I have once again taken up bread baking.
I have merged a thread that began with this post (and was originally in OMNI) with the o.p.'s similar thread (and with a re-title for clarity)

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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 8:22 am
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Originally Posted by exerda
Those look delicious!

I will admit that the hardest thing to get used to in getting back into making bread is the lack of kneading. I had always had it drilled into my head that you had to knead to develop gluten, and that of course the stand mixer would save all that effort.

Then all the recipes I've used as well as those a professional baker friend of mine has recommended to me involve no traditional kneading, either by hand or by dough hook. Just an autolyse period for the ingredients, some turning & stretching of the dough during the bulk rise (far less than kneading), and loaf shaping.

With high moisture ratio doughs (75% or more water by weight), I'm happy not to try to knead. That would be a gloopy mess in the mixer and worse by hand. It's enough of a mess turning and stretching by hand as it is. But the results have been great on every batch I've tried this year.

This was one of my recent results:

Impressive!
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Old Apr 28, 2020 | 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by exerda
ETA: Read through Lahey's recipe, and I still think the standard proof cycle might be a bit warm for overnight. A 12-18 hour bulk fermentation like he suggests would be at room temperature of 68-72 IMHO, and at warmer temps would risk the yeast basically running out of food too quickly, and the final dough falling a bit. You might be okay; always worth trying.
I think 68 is on the cold side for Lahey's recipe unless you're going *really* long. I make it year round and have to use the bedroom that stays over 70 for overnight rises in the winter. In the summer I've normally put it over some warm piece of electronics, and kept it over 75 without problems unless I let the first rise go over 18 hours. With the heat lamp and controller I just got, I had it in the oven for 12 hours at 80F and could have easily gone over 15 without problems. Since there's no added sugar the yeast acts a lot slower.
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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 6:46 am
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Today I made a 750g loaf of basic white bread in my breadmaker. It was the best loaf I ever made and was light and fluffy - the only thing I would have liked to be different is a slightly darker crust.

I am feeling quite pleased with myself.
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Old May 1, 2020 | 12:02 pm
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Originally Posted by exerda
Those look delicious!

I will admit that the hardest thing to get used to in getting back into making bread is the lack of kneading. I had always had it drilled into my head that you had to knead to develop gluten, and that of course the stand mixer would save all that effort.

Then all the recipes I've used as well as those a professional baker friend of mine has recommended to me involve no traditional kneading, either by hand or by dough hook. Just an autolyse period for the ingredients, some turning & stretching of the dough during the bulk rise (far less than kneading), and loaf shaping.

With high moisture ratio doughs (75% or more water by weight), I'm happy not to try to knead. That would be a gloopy mess in the mixer and worse by hand. It's enough of a mess turning and stretching by hand as it is. But the results have been great on every batch I've tried this year.

This was one of my recent results:

That's a beauty!! Well done! I want some right now with lots of unsalted plugra butter.

For those of you having trouble finding yeast here are some interesting flatbreads made with yogurt. I have not tried them but they look yummy.
https://smittenkitchen.com/2020/04/l...rt-flatbreads/
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Old May 2, 2020 | 5:47 pm
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https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/bread-rolls

ive never made a bread product or touched raw bread dough until today and these are delicious.
so if I can do this, then everybody else can do it.
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I made crumpets for the first time. They're not perfect but not bad for a first attempt. The flavour was amazing - so much better than shop bought. They were time consuming though.

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Originally Posted by Cassie55
I made crumpets for the first time. They're not perfect but not bad for a first attempt. The flavour was amazing - so much better than shop bought. They were time consuming though.
gorgeous!

recipe please :-)
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Originally Posted by gaobest
gorgeous!

recipe please :-)
https://www.daringgourmet.com/tradit...ontainer-43260

Based on a friend's recommendation I didn't flip them as you lose holes. I removed the rings and grilled the top.
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Old May 3, 2020 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by Cassie55
https://www.daringgourmet.com/tradit...ontainer-43260

Based on a friend's recommendation I didn't flip them as you lose holes. I removed the rings and grilled the top.
My rings arrive tonight and I am ready to get started tomorrow. I love store bought crumpets and cant imagine how much better these will be. Ive been hesitating over which recipe to use but yours look so good, I will just follow in your footsteps.
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Old May 3, 2020 | 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
My rings arrive tonight and I am ready to get started tomorrow. I love store bought crumpets and cant imagine how much better these will be. Ive been hesitating over which recipe to use but yours look so good, I will just follow in your footsteps.
Let me know how they turn out. Another tip is to cook for a longer time on a lower heat. Just watch the bottoms.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 7:09 am
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I wish the grocery stores here had any flour in stock!
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Old May 4, 2020 | 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
I wish the grocery stores here had any flour in stock!
I'm struggling. I always have spare bags of bread flour both malted seeded flour and white but I'm running out. It doesn't seem available anywhere.
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Old May 4, 2020 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Cassie55
I'm struggling. I always have spare bags of bread flour both malted seeded flour and white but I'm running out. It doesn't seem available anywhere.
I can usually find all sorts off oddball flours: spelt, cake, gluten free, almond etc. if I go to the store early enough, there is usually some all purpose. It not good to be picky about brands though.

Originally Posted by Cassie55
Let me know how they turn out. Another tip is to cook for a longer time on a lower heat. Just watch the bottoms.
Any hints on getting rid of all the annoying pop ups on that website? I just had to print it and be done.

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Old May 4, 2020 | 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by BamaVol
Any hints on getting rid of all the annoying pop ups on that website? I just had to print it and be done.
Unfortunately no. A friend passed the link onto me after she made the crumpets. I printed the recipe anyway as I prefer to follow it on paper.
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