Fees for upgrading Fare class?

 
Old Sep 11, 09, 3:23 pm
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Fees for upgrading Fare class?

I'm curious - is it DL's normal policy to charge fees if you want to upgrade a ticket to another fare class while keeping the same iten? I decided I wanted to upgrade a ticket with miles so I needed to get it to a higher fare class as my company's travel agent always gets the lowest possible fare. I was suprised to be told that I would have to pay a change fee AND a fee because the ticket was issued by a travel agent.

It seems to me that unless you are actually changing your iten just upgrading the fare class should be a difference of fare only charge.

I'm hoping this was a mistake - but if not I'd like to find a way to offer it as a suggested elite benefit. I'm guessing many here can see the applications given the various fare class restrictions in the system.
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Old Sep 11, 09, 3:33 pm
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You were told the right thing. There is a fee for upgrading fare classes (which I believe is just stupid as you have to pay for the right to give more money to Delta) and a fee for Delta to take over the ticket from a travel agent.
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Old Sep 11, 09, 3:40 pm
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I agree that this is just one of the dumbest policies every conceived. While I understand (although do not appreciate the costs) of the ticketing change fee (i.e. changing origins, destinations, times, dates), I do not understand why a company would want to discourage anyone from giving them more money for the same service essentially - in this case a coach ticket. Perhaps one day someone at DL will revisit this policy, but I think it is consistent among the legacy carriers.
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Old Sep 11, 09, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by GoCanes View Post
I agree that this is just one of the dumbest policies every conceived.
There is a good reason for this policy, as it prevents scenarios, such as:
  1. Someone purchases a discounted fare with a $250 change fee.
  2. Later on, the PAX wants to change the dates.
  3. Instead of paying the $250 change fee, the PAX "upgrades" to a higher fully flexible fare by just paying the fare difference
  4. After the date changes are done, the PAX downgrades to the original fare (since the new fare is fully flexible) and gets a refund of the fare difference back.
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Old Sep 11, 09, 4:53 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
There is a good reason for this policy, as it prevents scenarios, such as:
  1. Someone purchases a discounted fare with a $250 change fee.
  2. Later on, the PAX wants to change the dates.
  3. Instead of paying the $250 change fee, the PAX "upgrades" to a higher fully flexible fare by just paying the fare difference
  4. After the date changes are done, the PAX downgrades to the original fare (since the new fare is fully flexible) and gets a refund of the fare difference back.
A good explanation, thank you sir.
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
There is a good reason for this policy, as it prevents scenarios, such as:
  1. Someone purchases a discounted fare with a $250 change fee.
  2. Later on, the PAX wants to change the dates.
  3. Instead of paying the $250 change fee, the PAX "upgrades" to a higher fully flexible fare by just paying the fare difference
  4. After the date changes are done, the PAX downgrades to the original fare (since the new fare is fully flexible) and gets a refund of the fare difference back.
How does that explain an international ticket going from M to I esp since if you change outbound the entire fare changes? I used to avoid going to I from M/B due to the change fee but now am worried about the city-pair rule of the I fare should I have to cancel so likely will not buy I in the first place.

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Old Sep 11, 09, 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS View Post
There is a good reason for this policy, as it prevents scenarios, such as:
  1. Someone purchases a discounted fare with a $250 change fee.
  2. Later on, the PAX wants to change the dates.
  3. Instead of paying the $250 change fee, the PAX "upgrades" to a higher fully flexible fare by just paying the fare difference
  4. After the date changes are done, the PAX downgrades to the original fare (since the new fare is fully flexible) and gets a refund of the fare difference back.
I see the issue but wouldn't this problem be easily solved by limiting the fee free buy-up to a certain fare class level? Unless I'm mistaken you can open up a number of upgrade possibilities at mid-tier fares. I think if you could just reach M - which is still non-refundable - you can make most any upgrade work.
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Originally Posted by pmaddock View Post
I see the issue but wouldn't this problem be easily solved by limiting the fee free buy-up to a certain fare class level? Unless I'm mistaken you can open up a number of upgrade possibilities at mid-tier fares. I think if you could just reach M - which is still non-refundable - you can make most any upgrade work.
DL does have change fee wavers for upgrades to most expensive fares, such as C/J-class (as shown below).

For other types of fare upgrades, they are probably quite happy with the change fee + fare difference.

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.0/Diamond - DotRes: ATL-LON/DL/TKWSL30/480 USD]
Code:
PENALTIES : ORIGINATING UNITED STATES -
  CANCELLATIONS

<..>

  CHANGES

  ANY TIME
  CHARGE USD 250.00.
  CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

<..>
  .
  TICKET UPGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. FULL AMOUNT PAID FOR ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
  APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A HIGHER TYPE FARE
  UPON PAYMENT OF THE CHANGE FEE PLUS THE
  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ORIGINAL AND RECALCULATED
  FARES. PASSENGERS UPGRADING TO AN ECONOMY EU/ER
  OR A BUSINESS CLASS BR/BU OR FIRST CLASS FR/FU
  TYPE FARE WILL NOT BE ASSESSED THE CHANGE FEE.
  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE MUST BE MET
  INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN STAY/MAX STAY/
  SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST
  BE NOTED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX
  .
  TICKET DOWNGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. PASSENGERS DOWNGRADING FARES MUST KEEP THE
  ORIGINALLY BOOKED ITINERARY-NO CHANGE TO DATE/
  TIME/ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. THE CHANGE FEE WILL
  BE ASSESSED.  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW
  FARE MUST BE MET INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN
  STAY/MAX STAY/SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.  THE
  NON-REFUNDABLE FARE AMOUNT LESS THE CHANGE
  FEE WILL BE REFUNDED IN THE FORM OF A
  NON-REFUNDABLE VOUCHER FOR TRAVEL
  GOVERNED BY DL ONLY
  .
  TICKET REISSUE PROCEDURES
  1. CHANGES TO OUTBOUND PORTION OF UNUSED TICKETS
  A. ISSUE A NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  B. MUST USE CURRENT FARES AND IROE WHERE APPL
  C. VERIFY ALL RULES
  D. VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET LESS THE
  APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  2. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN OF UNUSED TICKETS
  DATE CHANGE ONLY / NO REROUTING
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
  TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  B. REPRICE KEEPING OUTBOUND FARES AND REPLACING
  THE CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS USING
  HISTORICAL FARES AND MODIFIED ADVANCE
  PURCHASE
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY
  FARE COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -REPLACEMENT OF FARES MUST BE AN EQUAL OR
  HIGHER FARE TYPE
  -MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE
  DETERMINE THE APPLICABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE BY
  CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN THE
  ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE AND THE DATE OF
  DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST FLIGHT SEGMENT.  THE
  ADVANCE PURCHASE OF ANY REPLACEMENT FARE
  MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THIS NUMBER
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  C. ISSUE NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  -MUST USE CURRENT FARES  //VERIFY ALL RULES
  -VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS APPLICABLE
  CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE
  PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  3. CHANGES TO PARTIALLY USED TICKETS
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  B. REPRICE KEEPING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS AND REPLACE FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION ON ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE AND MODIFIED
  ADVANCED PURCHASE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/BOOKING
  CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TICKETED FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS- Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D S I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  C. REPLACE FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS WITH HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL THE OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/
  BOOKING CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TKTD FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN
  FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS - Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D S I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  D. ISSUE A NEW TICKET
  -MAY USE VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS CHANGE
  FEE TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
  -THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
  NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE NOTED IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX
  -VALIDATE ALL RULES
  -IF ANY RESIDUAL VALUE IN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
  /LESS THE CHANGE FEE/ IT MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS PURCHASE OF NEW TICKET
  E. FARE TYPE HEIRARCHY
  A FARE TYPE MAY BE UPGRADED TO ANOTHER FARE
  TYPE ON A LEVEL UP FROM ITS OWN.  FARE TYPES
  AT THE SAME LEVEL MAY NOT BE USED.
  EXAMPLE...AN XAC MAY BE UPGRADED TO AN XAB
  OR ABOVE.  YOU MAY NOT USE AN XPY AS IT IS
  ON SAME LEVEL AS THE XAC
  .
  FR/FU
  FX/FOX
  BR/BU
  BX/BOX
  BAP
  BXN
  ER/EU
  XEX
  XES
  XAP  -----  XPX
  XAW  -----  XPS
  XAN  -----  XPL
  XAB  -----  XPB
  XAC  -----  XPY
  XAT  -----  XPF
  XBB  -----  XPV/XPN
  XBN  -----  XPC
  ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM -
  CANCELLATIONS

  ANY TIME
  TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE IN CASE OF CANCEL/
  NO-SHOW.
  WAIVED FOR ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR
  FAMILY MEMBER.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  - MAY ONLY CHANGE DATE OF TRAVEL/NO REROUTING
  PERMITTED
  - ALL TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED
  - SEE /CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNT/ IN FARE RULE TO
  DETERMINE IF APPLICABLE - NO CHANGE FEE IF UNDER
  2 YEARS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT
  - RESERVATION CHANGES MADE PRIOR TO THE ORIGINALLY
  SCHEDULED FLIGHT RETAINS TKT VALUE LESS THE
  APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE
  ORIGINAL DATE OF TICKET ISSUANCE.
  - CHANGES RESULTING IN A HIGHER FARE MUST BE ADD
  COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF REISSUE
  - FOR FARE TYPE HIERARCHY SEE 3.E. BELOW
  - MUST COMPLETE TRAVEL BY 1 YEAR FROM THE DATE OF
  COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL
  - FARES IN DIFFERENT RULES WITH THE SAME OR
  DIFFERENT CHANGE FEES - APPLY THE HIGHEST FEE OF
  ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT ON THE TICKET
  - THE CHANGE FEE OR ITS EQUIVALENT WILL BE
  CONVERTED AT THE BANK RATE AT TIME OF REISSUE
  .
  TICKET UPGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. FULL AMOUNT PAID FOR ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
  APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A HIGHER TYPE FARE
  UPON PAYMENT OF THE CHANGE FEE PLUS THE
  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ORIGINAL AND RECALCULATED
  FARES. PASSENGERS UPGRADING TO AN ECONOMY EU/ER
  OR A BUSINESS CLASS BR/BU OR FIRST CLASS FR/FU
  TYPE FARE WILL NOT BE ASSESSED THE CHANGE FEE.
  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE MUST BE MET
  INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN STAY/MAX STAY/
  SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST
  BE NOTED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX
  .
  TICKET DOWNGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. PASSENGERS DOWNGRADING FARES MUST KEEP THE
  ORIGINALLY BOOKED ITINERARY-NO CHANGE TO DATE/
  TIME/ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. THE CHANGE FEE WILL
  BE ASSESSED.  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW
  FARE MUST BE MET INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN
  STAY/MAX STAY/SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.  THE
  NON-REFUNDABLE FARE AMOUNT LESS THE CHANGE
  FEE WILL BE REFUNDED IN THE FORM OF A
  NON-REFUNDABLE VOUCHER FOR TRAVEL
  GOVERNED BY DL ONLY
  .
  TICKET REISSUE PROCEDURES
  1. CHANGES TO OUTBOUND PORTION OF UNUSED TICKETS
  A. ISSUE A NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  B. MUST USE CURRENT FARES AND IROE WHERE APPL
  C. VERIFY ALL RULES
  D. VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET LESS THE
  APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  2. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN OF UNUSED TICKETS
  DATE CHANGE ONLY / NO REROUTING
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
  TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  B. REPRICE KEEPING OUTBOUND FARES AND REPLACING
  THE CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS USING
  HISTORICAL FARES AND MODIFIED ADVANCE
  PURCHASE
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY
  FARE COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -REPLACEMENT OF FARES MUST BE AN EQUAL OR
  HIGHER FARE TYPE
  -MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE
  DETERMINE THE APPLICABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE BY
  CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN THE
  ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE AND THE DATE OF
  DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST FLIGHT SEGMENT.  THE
  ADVANCE PURCHASE OF ANY REPLACEMENT FARE
  MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THIS NUMBER
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  C. ISSUE NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  -MUST USE CURRENT FARES  //VERIFY ALL RULES
  -VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS APPLICABLE
  CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE
  PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  3. CHANGES TO PARTIALLY USED TICKETS
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  B. REPRICE KEEPING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS AND REPLACE FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION ON ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE AND MODIFIED
  ADVANCED PURCHASE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/BOOKING
  CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TICKETED FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS- Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  C. REPLACE FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS WITH HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL THE OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/
  BOOKING CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TKTD FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN
  FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS - Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  D. ISSUE A NEW TICKET
  -MAY USE VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS CHANGE
  FEE TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
  -THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
  NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE NOTED IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX
  -VALIDATE ALL RULES
  -IF ANY RESIDUAL VALUE IN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
  /LESS THE CHANGE FEE/ IT MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS PURCHASE OF NEW TICKET
  E. FARE TYPE HEIRARCHY
  A FARE TYPE MAY BE UPGRADED TO ANOTHER FARE
  TYPE ON A LEVEL UP FROM ITS OWN.  FARE TYPES
  AT THE SAME LEVEL MAY NOT BE USED.
  EXAMPLE...AN XAC MAY BE UPGRADED TO AN XAB
  OR ABOVE.  YOU MAY NOT USE AN XPY AS IT IS
  ON SAME LEVEL AS THE XAC
  .
  FR/FU
  FX/FOX
  BR/BU
  BX/BOX
  BAP
  BXN
  ER/EU
  XEX
  XES
  XAP  -----  XPX
  XAW  -----  XPS
  XAN  -----  XPL
  XAB  -----  XPB
  XAC  -----  XPY
  XAT  -----  XPF
  XBB  -----  XPV/XPN
  XBN  -----  XPC

  CHANGES

  ANY TIME
  CHARGE GBP 100.00.
  CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  - MAY ONLY CHANGE DATE OF TRAVEL/NO REROUTING
  PERMITTED
  - ALL TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED
  - SEE /CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNT/ IN FARE RULE TO
  DETERMINE IF APPLICABLE - NO CHANGE FEE IF UNDER
  2 YEARS OF AGE NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT
  - RESERVATION CHANGES MADE PRIOR TO THE ORIGINALLY
  SCHEDULED FLIGHT RETAINS TKT VALUE LESS THE
  APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE UP TO ONE YEAR FROM THE
  ORIGINAL DATE OF TICKET ISSUANCE.
  - CHANGES RESULTING IN A HIGHER FARE MUST BE ADD
  COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF REISSUE
  - FOR FARE TYPE HIERARCHY SEE 3.E. BELOW
  - MUST COMPLETE TRAVEL BY 1 YEAR FROM THE DATE OF
  COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL
  - FARES IN DIFFERENT RULES WITH THE SAME OR
  DIFFERENT CHANGE FEES - APPLY THE HIGHEST FEE OF
  ANY CHANGED FARE COMPONENT ON THE TICKET
  - THE CHANGE FEE OR ITS EQUIVALENT WILL BE
  CONVERTED AT THE BANK RATE AT TIME OF REISSUE
  .
  TICKET UPGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. FULL AMOUNT PAID FOR ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE
  APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A HIGHER TYPE FARE
  UPON PAYMENT OF THE CHANGE FEE PLUS THE
  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ORIGINAL AND RECALCULATED
  FARES. PASSENGERS UPGRADING TO AN ECONOMY EU/ER
  OR A BUSINESS CLASS BR/BU OR FIRST CLASS FR/FU
  TYPE FARE WILL NOT BE ASSESSED THE CHANGE FEE.
  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE MUST BE MET
  INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN STAY/MAX STAY/
  SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST
  BE NOTED IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX
  .
  TICKET DOWNGRADE PROCEDURES
  1. PASSENGERS DOWNGRADING FARES MUST KEEP THE
  ORIGINALLY BOOKED ITINERARY-NO CHANGE TO DATE/
  TIME/ORIGIN OR DESTINATION. THE CHANGE FEE WILL
  BE ASSESSED.  ALL RULE PROVISIONS OF THE NEW
  FARE MUST BE MET INCLUDING ADVANCE PURCHASE/MIN
  STAY/MAX STAY/SEASONALITY/ETC.
  2. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT ASSOCIATED
  WITH THIS FARE REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.  THE
  NON-REFUNDABLE FARE AMOUNT LESS THE CHANGE
  FEE WILL BE REFUNDED IN THE FORM OF A
  NON-REFUNDABLE VOUCHER FOR TRAVEL
  GOVERNED BY DL ONLY
  .
  TICKET REISSUE PROCEDURES
  1. CHANGES TO OUTBOUND PORTION OF UNUSED TICKETS
  A. ISSUE A NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  B. MUST USE CURRENT FARES AND IROE WHERE APPL
  C. VERIFY ALL RULES
  D. VALUE OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET LESS THE
  APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  2. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN OF UNUSED TICKETS
  DATE CHANGE ONLY / NO REROUTING
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -MUST BE ABLE TO KEEP THE ORIGINAL FARES AS
  TICKETED FOR ALL FARE COMPONENTS
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  B. REPRICE KEEPING OUTBOUND FARES AND REPLACING
  THE CONTINUING/RETURN FARE COMPONENTS USING
  HISTORICAL FARES AND MODIFIED ADVANCE
  PURCHASE
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY
  FARE COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -REPLACEMENT OF FARES MUST BE AN EQUAL OR
  HIGHER FARE TYPE
  -MODIFIED ADVANCE PURCHASE
  DETERMINE THE APPLICABLE ADVANCE PURCHASE BY
  CALCULATING THE NUMBER OF DAYS BETWEEN THE
  ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE AND THE DATE OF
  DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST FLIGHT SEGMENT.  THE
  ADVANCE PURCHASE OF ANY REPLACEMENT FARE
  MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THIS NUMBER
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  C. ISSUE NEW TICKET - CANCEL AND START OVER
  -MUST USE CURRENT FARES  //VERIFY ALL RULES
  -VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS APPLICABLE
  CHANGE FEE MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE
  PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET.
  3. CHANGES TO PARTIALLY USED TICKETS
  A. ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE FARES AS TICKETED
  -CANNOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  B. REPRICE KEEPING FARES FOR FLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS AND REPLACE FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS USING HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION ON ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE
  OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE AND MODIFIED
  ADVANCED PURCHASE
  -ALL OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/BOOKING
  CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TICKETED FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR UNFLOWN FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS- Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D S I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  C. REPLACE FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS WITH HISTORICAL FARES
  -MAY NOT CHANGE ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF ANY FARE
  COMPONENT
  -USE HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE DATE OF
  THE ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE
  -ALL THE OTHER RULE DATA MUST BE VERIFIED
  INCLUDING FARE COMBINABILITY
  -REPLACEMENT FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN FARE
  COMPONENTS MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE/
  BOOKING CLASS AND FARE TYPE THAN THE ORIGINAL
  TICKETED FARE
  -NEW TICKET VALUE MUST BE OF EQUAL OR HIGHER
  VALUE THAN THE TKTD FARE
  -USE BOOKING CLASS HIERARCHY BELOW WHEN
  REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN AND UNFLOWN
  FARE COMPONENTS
  ECONOMY CLASS - Y B M H Q K L U T
  BUSINESS CLASS - J C D S I
  FIRST CLASS - F A
  D. ISSUE A NEW TICKET
  -MAY USE VALUE OF ORIGINAL TICKET LESS CHANGE
  FEE TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET
  -THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
  NON-REFUNDABLE AND MUST BE NOTED IN THE
  ENDORSEMENT BOX
  -VALIDATE ALL RULES
  -IF ANY RESIDUAL VALUE IN THE ORIGINAL TICKET
  /LESS THE CHANGE FEE/ IT MAY BE APPLIED
  TOWARDS PURCHASE OF NEW TICKET
  E. FARE TYPE HEIRARCHY
  A FARE TYPE MAY BE UPGRADED TO ANOTHER FARE
  TYPE ON A LEVEL UP FROM ITS OWN.  FARE TYPES
  AT THE SAME LEVEL MAY NOT BE USED.
  EXAMPLE...AN XAC MAY BE UPGRADED TO AN XAB
  OR ABOVE.  YOU MAY NOT USE AN XPY AS IT IS
  ON SAME LEVEL AS THE XAC
  .
  FR/FU
  FX/FOX
  BR/BU
  BX/BOX
  BAP
  BXN
  ER/EU
  XEX
  XES
  XAP  -----  XPX
  XAW  -----  XPS
  XAN  -----  XPL
  XAB  -----  XPB
  XAC  -----  XPY
  XAT  -----  XPF
  XBB  -----  XPV/XPN
  XBN  -----  XPC

HIP_MILEAGE_EXCEPTIONS : NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

TICKET_ENDORSEMENTS : THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
  - NONREF/NONEND/PEX - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

CHILDREN_DISCOUNTS : CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 80 PERCENT OF
  THE FARE.
  TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
  COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
  OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 80
  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
  TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
  COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
  OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
  CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
  TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
  COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
  OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-14 - CHARGE 100
  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
  TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN UNDER 5 YEARS OF AGE WILL
  NOT BE ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE UNDER ANY CONDITIONS.
  UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN AGES 5 THROUGH 7 MAY TRAVEL
  ON NON-STOP FLIGHTS ONLY AND MAY NOT CONNECT TO
  OTHER AIRLINES.
  CHILDREN AGES 8 THROUGH 14 MAY TRAVEL
  UNACCOMPANIED ON DELTAS NON-STOP OR CONNECTING
  FLIGHTS - BUT MAY NOT CONNECT TO OTHER AIRLINES
  WITH THE EXCEPTION OF DELTA CONNECTION/
  NORTHWEST AIRLINES/KLM AND AIR FRANCE.

TOUR_CONDUCTOR_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

AGENT_DISCOUNTS : NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

ALL_OTHER_DISCOUNTS : NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  NO OTHER DISCOUNTS PERMITTED.

MISCELLANEOUS_PROVISIONS : NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

GROUPS : NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

TOURS : NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

VISIT_ANOTHER_COUNTRY : NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

DEPOSITS : NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

RULE_APPLICATION_AND_OTHER_CONDITIONS : INSTANT PURCHASE NON-REFUNDABLE SALE FARES FROM
  U.S. TO AREA 2/3
  APPLICATION
  AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY
  FROM UNITED STATES
  TO AREA 2/AREA 3.
  CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
  TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
  ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
  CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
  CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
  THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
  AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
  WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
  FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
  JUDGEMENT.

ELIGIBILITY : NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

DAY_TIME : PERMITTED THU THROUGH SUN ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC
  SECTOR.

SEASONALITY : PERMITTED 17AUG09 THROUGH 24OCT09 ON THE OUTBOUND
  TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON DATE OF
  ORIGIN.

FLIGHT_APPLICATION : THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
  ANY BA FLIGHT
  ANY EI FLIGHT
  ANY LH FLIGHT
  ANY LX FLIGHT
  ANY LY FLIGHT
  ANY MS FLIGHT
  ANY OS FLIGHT
  ANY OA FLIGHT
  ANY AA FLIGHT
  ANY US FLIGHT
  ANY UA FLIGHT
  ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
  ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
  ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY US FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY SA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY TK FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
  ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
  ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY US
  ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY LY.
  AND
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
  ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
  ANY LH FLIGHT
  ANY UA FLIGHT
  ANY EI FLIGHT.

ADVANCE_RESERVATIONS_TICKETING : CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
  LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
  TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
  RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE
  DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

MINIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
  NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
  OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

MAXIMUM_STAY : TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
  MIDNIGHT 3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

STOPOVERS : NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.

TRANSFERS : UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION
  ANY COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING -
  UNLIMITED ONLINE ON DL.
  FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
  SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

COMBINATIONS : DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
  ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
  END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
  COMBINATIONS.
  PROVIDED -
  COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ/OK/NW/DL
  OR FOR CARRIER AS/QX.
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
  -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
  FARES
  -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD
  FARES.
  PROVIDED -
  COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY REGULAR APEX/APEX
  NONREFUNDABLE/SUPER/SPECIAL APEX/INSTANT PURCHASE
  FARE/INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE-TYPE FARES/
  SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE/REGULAR EXCURSION/
  2ND LEVEL SUPER/SPECIAL ADVANCE PURCHASE/3RD LEVEL
  ADVANCE PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND
  LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE NONREF/3RD LEVEL INSTANT
  PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL ADVANCE PURCHASE/5TH LEVEL
  INSTANT PURCHASE/2ND LEVEL SUPER INST PURCHASE/4TH
  LEVEL INSTANT PURCHASE-TYPE FARES FOR CARRIER KL/
  AF/AZ/OK/NW/DL
  OR FOR CARRIER AS/QX IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF
  IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
  IPRAI   - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATL
  IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2
  VIA ATL.
  COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL IN
  RULE 4444 IN TARIFF
  ATDLR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
  TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
  NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
  POINT -
  BUR-LGB  BUR-SNA  BWI-WAS  FLL-MIA  LAX-BUR
  LAX-LGB  LAX-ONT  LAX-SNA  LGB-SNA  NYC-EWR
  OAK-SFO  OAK-SJC  ONT-BUR  ONT-LGB  ONT-SNA
  SFO-SJC

BLACKOUT_DATES : NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

SURCHARGES : IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
  DIRECTION.
  ORIGINATING UNITED STATES -
  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 111.00 PER
  DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
  DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  A SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED FOR ANY FARE PAYING
  PASSENGER EACH TIME TRAVEL INVOLVES AN ENPLANEMENT
  ON A DL INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT.
  THE SURCHARGE SHALL BE CONVERTED TO THE APPLICABLE
  CURRENCY FOR THE COUNTRY OF COMMENCEMENT OF
  TRANSPORTATION AT THE APPLICABLE IATA ROE
  THE SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
  TRAVELING ON ANY DL FREE TICKET.
  THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
  CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
  AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 135.00 PER
  DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
  FOR DEPARTURE OF TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  A SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED FOR ANY FARE PAYING
  PASSENGER EACH TIME TRAVEL INVOLVES AN ENPLANEMENT
  ON A DL INTERNATIONAL FLIGHT.
  THE SURCHARGE SHALL BE CONVERTED TO THE APPLICABLE
  CURRENCY FOR THE COUNTRY OF COMMENCEMENT OF
  TRANSPORTATION AT THE APPLICABLE IATA ROE
  THE SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO PASSENGERS
  TRAVELING ON ANY DL FREE TICKET.
  THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
  CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
  AND - ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM -
  THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
  DIRECTION.
  NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
  YQ FEE MAY APPLY

ACCOMPANIED_TRAVEL : ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

TRAVEL_RESTRICTIONS : NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

SALES_RESTRICTIONS : TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 23SEP09.
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Old Sep 12, 09, 10:20 am
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I was just going to ask the same question. I have a ticket for a trip with a group in a couple of weeks JFK-CAI/AMM-JFK. It is all in U class. I'd like to pay the diff to get up to an upgradeable fare and then use miles. There are M fares still available at a difference of about $950. But, with the fees, I'm trying to decide if it is worth it.
EDIT: I just saw that there is Z0 for the JFK-CAI leg, but Z9 for the AMM-JFK leg. Is it possible to just buy-up the 2nd leg of the trip to use the miles upgrade? That would be less money, and with the fee, probably worth it.

Last edited by slidergirl; Sep 12, 09 at 10:33 am Reason: additional question
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Old Sep 12, 09, 11:06 am
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The last time I bought up from L to M to be able to use a PMU, the agent waived the change fee, saying I was PM and buying a higher fare class. So, you might get lucky, but the change fee is policy.
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