Delta Orders Two More 777Ls
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Delta Orders Two More 777Ls
The August 11, 2008 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology reports that DL has ordered two more 777Ls.
Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
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Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
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The August 11, 2008 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology reports that DL has ordered two more 777Ls.
Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
koppelman
Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
koppelman
Tell that to Singapore, which couldn't make 2-class ultra-long-hauls SIN-EWR and SIN-LAX work financially, so now is trying all-Business Class to improve yields.
The issue isn't technology, it's economics. ULH operations have dramatically diminishing efficiencies once flight times stretch much past 15 hours.
As for DL, good to see them picking up a couple more 77L's.
ATL-HKG! ATL-HKG! ATL-HKG!
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I like the idea of ATL-HKG too. A new 787 in DL colors would should be used.
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Wasn't there an entire thread discussing the loss of JFK-BOM due to a shortage of aircraft...
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NW is the launch customer for the US. DL's continued "gentleman's agreement" with Boeing, DL could get slotted into an earlier delivery. DL could also pick up a 787 from one of the leasing companies that currently have orders.
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Question Can 3 777LR's do a ATL-BOM-ATL-HKG-ATL routing on a daily basis?
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The August 11, 2008 issue of Aviation Week and Space Technology reports that DL has ordered two more 777Ls.
Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
koppelman
Any speculation on route implementation? I would love to see JFK-CPT nonstop. Refueling in Dakar is anachronistic in these days of ultra-long haul transport.
koppelman
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Tell that (the underlined bit, underlining mine) to Thai Airways, which just eliminated its BKK-JFK nonstop ultra-long-haul flight and added a primarily refueling stop at KIX to its BKK-LAX route.
Tell that to Singapore, which couldn't make 2-class ultra-long-hauls SIN-EWR and SIN-LAX work financially, so now is trying all-Business Class to improve yields.
Tell that to Singapore, which couldn't make 2-class ultra-long-hauls SIN-EWR and SIN-LAX work financially, so now is trying all-Business Class to improve yields.
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OK, are we really sure that this is a new order above and beyond what has already been announced? So far, I cannot find this news elsewhere.
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I do think JNB may be in line for nonstop service, but there are these lingering issues about whether the return would be payload restricted because of JNB's high elevation and frequently-warm temperatures.
There is also the question of what happens to the scissor operation at DKR if you put JNB nonstop. Either you have to come up with a different city in Africa to serve from DKR, or you have to eliminate either ATL or JFK from the DKR mix. Perhaps the other candidate will be Nairobi.
My proposal is to operate a routing of ATL-JNB-CPT-ATL. CPT is sea level so I think the 77L would be fine from a payload standpoint, and you can still market the nonstop service to/from South Africa. The JNB-CPT leg is only about two hours during daylight, which to me would be preferable to the middle-of-the-night wakeup in DKR for JNB-originating passengers returning to the U.S.
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I am however, curious as to the routing of these birds. I'd love to see ATL - BKK
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Not sure. I think PanAm used to operate the route, but whether that route authority was passed along to anyone or not, and if so, whether it was passed along to the purchaser of the Pacific Routes (UA) or the Atlantic routes (DL), I don't know.
I seem to recall that UA tried an around-the-world thing a few years ago using a BOM-HKG leg, or something similar, so perhaps UA got the route authority from Pan Am.
I seem to recall that UA tried an around-the-world thing a few years ago using a BOM-HKG leg, or something similar, so perhaps UA got the route authority from Pan Am.