Delta orders 20 A350-1000

Old Jan 12, 2024, 6:04 am
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Delta orders 20 A350-1000

20 orders
20 options for 'additional widebody aircraft'
Deliveries start in 2026

https://news.delta.com/delta-adds-st...widebody-fleet

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Old Jan 12, 2024, 6:11 am
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Based on some news reports, I expected a bigger order out of DL (some reports were indicating / hoping this order would include a "replacement" to the 767-300s).
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by EBiafore99
Based on some news reports, I expected a bigger order out of DL (some reports were indicating / hoping this order would include a "replacement" to the 767-300s).
At some point they'll have to order replacement planes for those. They're getting pretty old and nothing on order will replace the 65 they have in the fleet today. You have to image there will be a new order from someone for replacements in a few years.

This order seems to be geared almost exclusively towards fleet expansion.
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Originally Posted by EBiafore99
Based on some news reports, I expected a bigger order out of DL (some reports were indicating / hoping this order would include a "replacement" to the 767-300s).
Boeing is clearly in trouble right now w/r/t quality, and Delta appears dead set against the Dreamliner (proving them right thus far).
I think Delta held out hope for a "real" 757 replacement - which never materialized - and has been shifting more and more to the A321.

But they absolutely need to replace the ~65 767's - even after doing cabin overhauls...
The question is "with what"? A330neo? They can't be held hostage with a 100% Airbus fleet....
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 8:28 am
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I'm old enough to remember when DL said the 747-400 was too big for their fleet.
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 8:49 am
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Going big means they're liable to get stuck (like AA did) without a 757/767 replacement...the 767 is unfortunately the perfect size for Delta's secondary NYC-Europe and secondary US-European hub (RDU/CVG/IND to AMS/CDG etc) if they don't figure out something.
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Not an expert by any means, but just seems like the winning equipment, from what is available, would be the 787, if the goal is to avoid becoming an all-Airbus wide body carrier.
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Not an expert by any means, but just seems like the winning equipment, from what is available, would be the 787, if the goal is to avoid becoming an all-Airbus wide body carrier.
Agreed. The only issue is lack of commonality of spares and training with aircraft already in service. Delta may just have to bite the bullet though.
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Delta should have ordered 787 years ago. It is a great plane. Now we will likely be stuck with 767-300 for longer than we hoped for.

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Old Jan 12, 2024, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by jamiel
Going big means they're liable to get stuck (like AA did) without a 757/767 replacement...the 767 is unfortunately the perfect size for Delta's secondary NYC-Europe and secondary US-European hub (RDU/CVG/IND to AMS/CDG etc) if they don't figure out something.
I think Delta has been holding out for a good 757/767 replacement and so far nothing has come about.
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
Delta should have ordered 787 years ago. It is a great plane. Now we will likely be stuck with 767-300 for longer than we hoped for.
Great but troubled plane.

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/t...ire/index.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/b...-earnings.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ys-2023-03-24/
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...-of-the-planes
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
Delta should have ordered 787 years ago. It is a great plane. Now we will likely be stuck with 767-300 for longer than we hoped for.
767 has the best Y-class in the sky! I hope we get stuck with them forever.
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by Adelphos
Delta should have ordered 787 years ago. It is a great plane. Now we will likely be stuck with 767-300 for longer than we hoped for.
NW actually put in an order for the 787 and IIRC they were supposed to get the plane before United and Continental. After the merger, Delta cancelled the order and IIRC instead took more lovely 739s.
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 10:16 am
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I wonder if Delta is planning to upgauge their TATL fleet? 787 is an okay 767 replacement for the current market, but maybe not the best choice if demand increases in the next 20 years. They can use the A350-1000 to markets that are currently served by multiple 767/A330 flights per day, and redistribute the 332s and 764s where they use 763s today.

When was the last time Delta purchased a widebody from Boeing? I think they are already Airbus captive in terms of acquisition.
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Old Jan 12, 2024, 10:17 am
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I haven't flown on Delta's A350s, but I've been on Cathay's A350s and really liked them. It seems like a fine airplane.
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