Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35557820)

So then PM/DM will come strictly from dollars spent on either DL/ST tickets or Delta Amex spend? What about current MQM balances?

Originally Posted by ATOBTTR (Post 35557828)

This is already what AA does with its "Loyalty Points" program. What would happen to current MQM balances would remain to be seen and we'll all just have to wait for the details to be formally announced in just over week as any comments before then (barring a leak from an inside source) about what a new program could look like is nothing but speculation.

Originally Posted by JSprague24 (Post 35557687)

People keep saying this, yet they've gone back to rolling over only the previous year's MQMs, haven't they?

Originally Posted by DLHubber (Post 35557864)

No, they've never done that. As long as you hit FO all of your MQMs beyond 25/50/75/125k are rolled over. The difference during Covid was that they rolled over all MQMs for everyone and didn't deduct anything. That's why some people still have sky high MQMs. I'm not sure it's as big of a problem as some on here make it out to be, though.

Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35557874)

Its a major problem when people who barely fly DL can simply put $2,100 per month on a DL Amex and be PM for the next 3-5 years.

Originally Posted by DLHubber (Post 35557882)

If they barely fly DL, then they are no problem at all. Why does it matter to you if they're an on-the-ground PM? Your obsession over this makes zero sense.

Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35557912)

Giving everyone and their brother the second highest published DL tier at a very low bar results in many additional RUCs out there plus longer hold times plus longer upgrade and standby lists, etc. They also cost DL additional RDMs with no ROI. DL made a big mistake increasing DM waiver to $250k but leaving PM at $25k.

Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35557912)

Giving everyone and their brother the second highest published DL tier at a very low bar results in many additional RUCs out there plus longer hold times plus longer upgrade and standby lists, etc. They also cost DL additional RDMs with no ROI. DL made a big mistake increasing DM waiver to $250k but leaving PM at $25k.

Originally Posted by DLHubber (Post 35557948)

No, none of this makes any sense. You said yourself that they "barely fly DL." I don't even believe a significant number of such people exist, because it is such a nonsensical thing to do. But for the ones that do, who cares? They barely fly DL. Who cares about their RUCs or very infrequent spots on upgrade lists? And since they barely fly, they barely have a reason to call DL in the first place. I fly quite a bit and even I barely ever have to contact DL. Stressing out about these alleged people is just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35557991)

When everyone (and their brother) is PM no one is PM.

Originally Posted by dw (Post 35556291)

Looking at the Reddit thread, the person who posted the pic says he doesn't have any firsthand knowledge, but has heard the changes are moving to a revenue based elite qualification system. Truth is, with earnings already being revenue based (and DL having been the leader there), and with AA and UA having moved to revenue based elite qualification, it's only a matter of time before DL follows.

Unfortunately this further eliminates any sweet spots in the program, but I will say that in practice, what has been good with AA and UA's programs are that short haul flyers who pay an arm and a leg (and often on the worst equipment) no longer get penalized.

Originally Posted by dw (Post 35557764)

Not sure what UA is doing, but AA is continuing to track MM status via distance.

Originally Posted by DLHubber (Post 35558026)

Aren't you a DM? Why do you even care about lowly PMs? I'm a PM and I don't even care about these mythical PMs that barely fly.

At the end of the day, anybody with status got it through meeting the published criteria. I'm not going to waste an ounce of energy caring about people who achieved their status in a way I don't like.