Originally Posted by CaliguyNYC (Post 35556686)

My issue with United’s system is there is no benefit for flying on premium fares (like first class).

Originally Posted by MCO Flyer (Post 35556736)

Perhaps drastic changes such as removing MQMs, rollover MQMs, AMEX MQD waiver will mean any changes won’t take effect until 2025 calendar year flying rather than 2024 to give everyone a “1 year warning” (I.e you’ll still get your normal rollover MQMs at the end of this year for next year but none after as they transition to a new system in 2025). It would also seem odd to change the qualification requirements in back-to-back years, but this is DL and I guess we shouldn’t put anything past them at this point.

Originally Posted by shoodawg (Post 35556754)

my money is on this will take effect 2025 program year, but I do realize we’re talking delta, and they are a slippery bunch.

Originally Posted by CaliguyNYC (Post 35556686)

My issue with United’s system is there is no benefit for flying on premium fares (like first class). Also they are huge in Asia/OZ which have such expensive J tickets like 2 round trips gets you 1K. Add to that there a lot of Global Service (while Delta 360 seems like a small pool) - so 1K Is not really equal to Diamond

Originally Posted by The Mileage Millionaire (Post 35556783)

You have to fly 54 United segments for 1K, so 2 roundrtrips won't do it.

Originally Posted by dw (Post 35556767)

I believe when AA and UA moved to revenue based qualification, they announced it in the fall… for effect the immediate next calendar year. So that’s the precedent.

Originally Posted by VFR (Post 35556714)

AA and UA continued tracking BIS flown miles for lifetime status. DL could continue the current MQM earning chart solely for lifetime status, could switch to BIS miles, or could base it on the new system.

Incidentally, I do think DL will switch to a loyalty points system similar to what AA and B6 have (and UA will tune their PQP program to similarly value card spending), because under the current system people who don't spend $25k/year on credit cards to earn the MQD waiver are not particularly incentivized to spend money on them besides earning SkyMiles. For personal spending, $25k/year is a lot to put on a credit card unless you put rent / mortgage payments on it, and not everyone can/wants to put business expenses on their personal card and be reimbursed. A continuous points earning system instead of a cut-off means DL can capture some of the $10k/year spenders who might otherwise use a 2% cash back card – the fact elite status is hard to put a dollar value on (and most people over-value it) helps make up for the lower value of SkyMiles.

Originally Posted by ATOBTTR (Post 35556788)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ecfe24c36.jpeg
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...r/qualify.html

If you earn 24K PQPs on those 2 round trips, which could be full J fares to Australia or South Africa, you could earn 1K without needing to fly 54 segments.

Originally Posted by ATOBTTR (Post 35556788)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...ecfe24c36.jpeg
https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly...r/qualify.html

If you earn 24K PQPs on those 2 round trips, which could be full J fares to Australia or South Africa, you could earn 1K without needing to fly 54 segments.

Originally Posted by CaliguyNYC (Post 35556821)

No you are misreading the requirement - it is 54 segments and 18,000 PQP OR 24000 PQP - meaning if you spend $24k you get 1K with I think 4 united flights (2 round trips). I actually think the right way it segments plus money OR flight miles with money - so basically Delta’s approach without rollover (other than maybe a token head start like UA gives).

Originally Posted by matchbox20_is (Post 35556880)

I'm not saying nothing is going to happen but it is funny how we've spent half the summer discussing Reddit rumors.

Originally Posted by ATOBTTR (Post 35556891)

What is social media good for but for discussing rumors someone heard from their father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate? :D