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rather_be_on_a_griffin Sep 12, 2023 5:05 am

So do we get the blog 'leak' sometime tomorrow to allow Delta to try to get out the narrative it wants about the changes? It is going to be interesting - the plane is one of the most diverse shared forms of transport with really rich and really not rich coexisting for several hours (usually separated but not always thanks to the social mobility of frequent flyer programs/upgrades and the crippling cost of last minute tickets and limited availability).

My own view is I really regard this as a joint loyalty program with Amex so we might see more to come from them later. The recent offer on my Reserve to get $200 back when staying at one of Marriott's higher end properties was nice. Skymiles remain valuable for domestic economy class travel that is planned in advance - yes the cash tickets will often be cheap when they are cheap (by design) but at least it's a real free ticket. I tend to use them for family and friends for whom airtravel might be impossible.

Anyway, good luck and may the odds be ever in your favor.

LovePrunes Sep 12, 2023 7:07 am


Originally Posted by coke cans and winglets (Post 35573005)
What does that have to do with award tickets not getting elite credit?

My point is compared to Delta there's less opportunity cost on AA when using miles, for award flights, and pointing out methods many are using to earn points. I really couldn't care less if my AA flight doesn't earn miles anymore, as there are much easier ways to earn. I can't say that (yet) on Delta

GRALISTAIR Sep 12, 2023 7:53 am


Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35556089)
Probably MQD waiver increasing above $25k for GM/PM.

I strongly suspect this will be one change yes.
$25k Gold Waiver
$40k Platinum waiver
$ 250K Diamond waiver

NC17376 Sep 12, 2023 8:07 am


Originally Posted by dw (Post 35571881)
Yes, when AA revamped their program they really focused on what would drive engagement- knowing that if you lose your status tier, that it’ll be harder to regain it, undoubtedly drives people who might be on the line to be even more engaged in the program

UA effectively does the same thing by giving PQP boosts to elites

sydneyracquelle Sep 12, 2023 8:41 am


Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR (Post 35573390)
I strongly suspect this will be one change yes.
$25k Gold Waiver
$40k Platinum waiver
$ 250K Diamond waiver

My guess is 25/50/75/250.

ATOBTTR Sep 12, 2023 8:48 am


Originally Posted by GRALISTAIR (Post 35573390)
I strongly suspect this will be one change yes.
$25k Gold Waiver
$40k Platinum waiver
$ 250K Diamond waiver


Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35573529)
My guess is 25/50/75/250.

I'll be happy to admit I was wrong but I have to believe if DL is having a staff-stand-down-for-training to have staff prepared for an onslaught of questions, it's because the changes are going to be far more significant and complex than just a change to MQD Waiver Requirements for status levels. This seems to imply a major shake-up to and revamp of the program - perhaps something more inline with AA or UA's program (my speculation is probably something closer to AA's since UA's is pretty simple while AA has many complexities and intricacies that encourage incremental spend within AA's sphere that can help one achieve status).

sydneyracquelle Sep 12, 2023 9:10 am


Originally Posted by ATOBTTR (Post 35573553)
I'll be happy to admit I was wrong but I have to believe if DL is having a staff-stand-down-for-training to have staff prepared for an onslaught of questions, it's because the changes are going to be far more significant and complex than just a change to MQD Waiver Requirements for status levels. This seems to imply a major shake-up to and revamp of the program .

And NDAs to boot.

Utskicat Sep 12, 2023 9:16 am


Originally Posted by BER Flyer (Post 35572848)
If that would be just so easy. My home city Berlin has just got Delta service back ( untill october only ), otherwise my first flight segment is always on an partner airline, so in most cases i have AF/KL tickets which would not count towards my MQD total. Most of Deltas customers living in europe facing that problem.
And btw, i might be able to put $ 250K on my amex, holding both personal and business plat cards. But amex in europe is not reporting to amex in the US. I had the Delta Skymiles Mastercard when these were around but DL dropped them about 5 years ago.

you do earn MQD for AF/KL based on a formula of a percentage of miles flown.

LowValueCustomer Sep 12, 2023 9:21 am


Originally Posted by rather_be_on_a_griffin (Post 35573059)
So do we get the blog 'leak' sometime tomorrow to allow Delta to try to get out the narrative it wants about the changes?

I think the reveal is the leak - as has been mentioned upthread, TPG hasn't covered this - odd unless they've been given advance notice and embargoed - and DL gets to lock in favorable spin from a major travel blog in return for that exclusive advance access.

sydneyracquelle Sep 12, 2023 9:22 am


Originally Posted by LowValueCustomer (Post 35573684)
I think the reveal is the leak - as has been mentioned upthread, TPG hasn't covered this - odd unless they've been given advance notice and embargoed - and DL gets to lock in favorable spin from a major travel blog in return for that exclusive advance access.

This.

shoodawg Sep 12, 2023 9:23 am


Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle (Post 35573529)
My guess is 25/50/75/250.

15/25/35/350

sydneyracquelle Sep 12, 2023 9:45 am


Originally Posted by shoodawg (Post 35573696)
15/25/35/350

Yowza!!

LovePrunes Sep 12, 2023 10:11 am


Originally Posted by shoodawg (Post 35573696)
15/25/35/350

if DL follows AA, the AA points required to earn status for each tier are

40k, 75k, 125k, 200k,

made up of combined credit card spending and points/miles from other sources (ie they dont care how you earn your points. can be all credit card, all flying, all online shopping, all hotel stays, mixture of all of the above)

Ben7 Sep 12, 2023 10:23 am

I read this on a Reddit thread but did some testing, and it seems to be true. Buying 2024 flights seems to give the same MQMs, no matter what class you look to book in.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c9349ad503.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...06bf8974b0.png

coke cans and winglets Sep 12, 2023 10:25 am


Originally Posted by LovePrunes (Post 35573294)
My point is compared to Delta there's less opportunity cost on AA when using miles, for award flights, and pointing out methods many are using to earn points. I really couldn't care less if my AA flight doesn't earn miles anymore, as there are much easier ways to earn. I can't say that (yet) on Delta

I can see your point here a little bit, for me I heavily value the elite credit on awards since I have no cobranded cards with anyone and also wouldn't really use an airline's booking portal for hotels and such, but for some people that system and being able to earn miles and elite credit from that is probably great.


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